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Good point. Ok try 333x9.

Basically, what I am trying to do is eliminate the motherboard as the problem. If you can't get it to run your processor at beyond 300x10, but you can do 333x9, then you know the motherboard/ram isn't limiting you. If you cannot do the 333x9, then you know the motherboard or ram is limiting you.
Ok.. i have setted it at 333X9 and it goes ok and passes the tests (and in fact should be better than 300X10 since the DDR2 is going at 667 and not 600) . Boots ok, orthos ok , temps ok.
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Ok.. i have setted it at 333X9 and it goes ok and passes the tests (and in fact should be better than 300X10 since the DDR2 is going at 667 and not 600) . Boots ok, orthos ok , temps ok.
Ok, you're stuck at 3.0ghz then unless you don't mind increasing your vcore some more. Since it's only 1.28 in CPUZz you can probably increase it a good bit more without any trouble (just keep your temps in check). As you've probably figured out, this board has some significant vdroop issues, so you can either do a vdroop mod, or just increase the voltage more on the board to make up for it.

I've ran up to 1.55 (1.47 in CPUz) on my CPU/board without a problem. You could probably jump up to 1.5 at least and see what it looks like in CPUz afterward. That might help you get another 100-500 mhz out of the chip. According to the processor finder (http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLA95), your chip is good up to 1.5v, so until you reach that in CPUz, you should be fine.

Good luck!
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I've ran up to 1.55 (1.47 in CPUz) on my CPU/board without a problem. You could probably jump up to 1.5 at least and see what it looks like in CPUz afterward.

Good luck!
Thanks a lot for the help!

I will give it a try tomorrow.. i have increased before up to 1,5 but with same problem ..i will try increases of 1,55..the problem is that from 1,5 onwards it only increases in 0,5V intervals.. and yes its quite a lot the diference between that number and what CPUZ reads..as i said right now its set to 1,456V but now CPUZ reads 1,16V with 1,28V max with orthos runing..

So you think that i dont have to touch DDR2 and mobo voltages anymore to get at least to 3,33ghz (333X10) since at 333 they are stable (and CPU stable at 333X9) and only focus on the vcore?
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Thanks a lot for the help!

I will give it a try tomorrow.. i have increased before up to 1,5 but with same problem ..i will try increases of 1,55..the problem is that from 1,5 onwards it only increases in 0,5V intervals.. and yes its quite a lot the diference between that number and what CPUZ reads..as i said right now its set to 1,456V but now CPUZ reads 1,16V with 1,28V max with orthos runing..

So you think that i dont have to touch DDR2 and mobo voltages anymore to get at least to 3,33ghz (333X10) since at 333 they are stable (and CPU stable at 333X9) and only focus on the vcore?
Yep. 333mhz should run just fine at stock voltages on everything, unless you're getting some voltage-droop elsewhere as well. DDR2 can sometimes have some voltage droop on this board as well, but I haven't noticed it affecting much.

I wouldn't worry too much about sending too much voltage to your proc though. As far as I know, CPUz voltage is exactly what your processor is getting, and you still have a ton of headroom if you're only giving it 1.28v right now.

BTW, I just upped my 24/7 overclock to 475mhz on the FSB, for 3.3ghz on my proc. CPUz voltage shows 1.325, it's set at 1.45 in BIOS. Vdroop is just nuts on here, but oh well... Anyway, it's been rock stable so far, and I've been folding on both cores since yesterday. Just put +.1v on the MCH and FSB, and +.3v for my ram since that is what it requires anyway. So yeah, you shouldn't have any trouble with a measely 333mhz FSB speed and stock or near-stock voltages.
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Yep. 333mhz should run just fine at stock voltages on everything, unless you're getting some voltage-droop elsewhere as well. DDR2 can sometimes have some voltage droop on this board as well, but I haven't noticed it affecting much.

I wouldn't worry too much about sending too much voltage to your proc though. As far as I know, CPUz voltage is exactly what your processor is getting, and you still have a ton of headroom if you're only giving it 1.28v right now.
(....)

So yeah, you shouldn't have any trouble with a measely 333mhz FSB speed and stock or near-stock voltages.

Ok..i tried now.. i set up the vcore in the mobo to 1.6 to compensate the drop (my plan was to set a high vcore to get stable and then once its stable at 3,33 lower by bits the vcore until it becomes unstable to find the stable lower vcore) and set up the multiplier to 10X.

I saved the bios.. the computer rebooted.. remained there for a while doing nothing.. rebooted itself again and booted with OEM settings!!

Now it reversed itself back at 2.2ghz.. no.. actually lower.. its at 2.0GHZ since the multiplier remains at 10X. But the bus lowered itself to 200mhz and the memory its still at 333X2
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http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2629

F9c
2008/10/03
1. Beta bios

motherboard_bios_ga-p35-ds3l_f9c.exe

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...S&FileID=14523

No idea besides cpu ID updates I suppose.
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Ok..i tried now.. i set up the vcore in the mobo to 1.6 to compensate the drop (my plan was to set a high vcore to get stable and then once its stable at 3,33 lower by bits the vcore until it becomes unstable to find the stable lower vcore) and set up the multiplier to 10X.

I saved the bios.. the computer rebooted.. remained there for a while doing nothing.. rebooted itself again and booted with OEM settings!!

Now it reversed itself back at 2.2ghz.. no.. actually lower.. its at 2.0GHZ since the multiplier remains at 10X. But the bus lowered itself to 200mhz and the memory its still at 333X2
That's what the board does when it attempts to boot three times and is unsuccessful - it reverts back to stock settings.

Don't aim so high. Do SMALL FSB incremements. Like 5 mhz increase, boot to Windows, restart, another 5 mhz, etc. You're getting close to your chip's limit, so you're not going to be able to make a big jump like that.
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That's what the board does when it attempts to boot three times and is unsuccessful - it reverts back to stock settings.

Don't aim so high. Do SMALL FSB incremements. Like 5 mhz increase, boot to Windows, restart, another 5 mhz, etc. You're getting close to your chip's limit, so you're not going to be able to make a big jump like that.
Wasnt it supose to handle 333mhz bus ok since it was allready at 333X9?

There is many things i cant understood ..

specially when i knew people with the very same mobo and the very same CPU who had no problem at all going up to 3,6ghz. I have a pretty decent cooler wich for example at idling gets noe 21ºC with room temp 18. And with 3GHZ in orthos never pass 55ºC..
I cant even go pass 3 at all.. maybe i can manage it but only to fail in ORTHOS misserably.. i simply want to go pass 3.0 .. i dont plant to go 3.6 .. maybe manage 3,2 or 3,3 to know its doable and 24/7 go for 3.0 and maybe eventually go for 3,3 if any CPU-thristy game gets short (Lomac , BlackShark... ) but im totally blocked at 3.0
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Wasnt it supose to handle 333mhz bus ok since it was allready at 333X9?

There is many things i cant understood ..

specially when i knew people with the very same mobo and the very same CPU who had no problem at all going up to 3,6ghz. I have a pretty decent cooler wich for example at idling gets noe 21ºC with room temp 18. And with 3GHZ in orthos never pass 55ºC..
I cant even go pass 3 at all.. maybe i can manage it but only to fail in ORTHOS misserably.. i simply want to go pass 3.0 .. i dont plant to go 3.6 .. maybe manage 3,2 or 3,3 to know its doable and 24/7 go for 3.0 and maybe eventually go for 3,3 if any CPU-thristy game gets short (Lomac , BlackShark... ) but im totally blocked at 3.0
The MOTHERBOARD is capable of 333mhz, yes, but you do not know if your PROCESSOR is capable of 3.333ghz. That's why you have to do small increments.
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The MOTHERBOARD is capable of 333mhz, yes, but you do not know if your PROCESSOR is capable of 3.333ghz. That's why you have to do small increments.
Thats the point.. i have seen E4500s oced to 4ghz (even E4400s wich are the same only 10X instead 11X ) and many ocings about 3,4 and 3,6ghz with no problem at all. Can diferent units of the same model differ in that?
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