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This is getting ridicolous..
went work today.... when i arrive home i see the computer off and the digital clock flashing "6:30" (so power went out 6 hours and a half ago).
I switch on the computer and found that even oced to 3.0ghz it was at 20ºC with room temp 18-19..
I check the vcore and .. 1.15V.. of course it froze up quite quick..
seeing this enormous vcore drop .. again... after a power surge (as ussual) i reset and went to bios.. set it up to 1.8V again and went up to 3.33ghz . rebooted.. idle temp 25ºC and vcore was 1,3.. soon it stabilized to 1,4 and now im runing orthos and shows the old 1.44V again..

I take my mobo doesnt like power cut-offs in home.. its the second time this happens .. after a suddenly power-off the vcore changes.. it raises or it plumbs down.. only to recover again at the next power surge..

Now im runing orthos to check stability.. and got the 3,33ghz again.. lets see what happens.. but maybe i should think in get a UPS.. still dont know if that would cure normal shut-downs (my comp works 24/7 so shutting down is quite unusual)
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Uh oh... the system is stable but ORTHOS fails....and some times even system reboots

and its reporting the same vcore as it had when stable in 3.33 before, 1,44-1,45. Temps are good.. 28ºC idle normal in 20-21ºC room temp and under orthos goes up to 65

BTW: Its doing what i said before.. im finding 1,34V idle and goes up to 1,45 under load.. it doesnt make sense!!

It took some caps of it to prove that im not krazy:


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As you can see its 1,31v idle and when orthos hits in it goes 1,44-1,45
And i took a cap of the failure of orthos not much later


Edited by JLT_GTI - 9/20/09 at 5:51am
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Uh oh... the system is stable but ORTHOS fails....and some times even system reboots

and its reporting the same vcore as it had when stable in 3.33 before, 1,44-1,45. Temps are good.. 28ºC idle normal in 20-21ºC room temp and under orthos goes up to 65

BTW: Its doing what i said before.. im finding 1,34V idle and goes up to 1,45 under load.. it doesnt make sense!!

It took some caps of it to prove that im not krazy:


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As you can see its 1,31v idle and when orthos hits in it goes 1,44-1,45
And i took a cap of the failure of orthos not much later


I know exactly whats going on now with those pictures. You have throtteling enabled. when your computer is idle, it drops the multiplier down to x6 actually underclocking your computer, which explains the reduced voltage need idle. when you put load on the computer, it changes your multiplier to x10 and the voltage increases to meet the demand. you need to disable this in BIOS my friend. You will see profound results when you do.
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I know exactly whats going on now with those pictures. You have throtteling enabled. when your computer is idle, it drops the multiplier down to x6 actually underclocking your computer, which explains the reduced voltage need idle. when you put load on the computer, it changes your multiplier to x10 and the voltage increases to meet the demand. you need to disable this in BIOS my friend. You will see profound results when you do.
Thanks .. i will give it a try

.. but.. i allways had the speedstep option on , to keep the comp at 6X only when performing light taks...and so keep heat (power compumption) down most of the time..
Will the dissabling it to keep the processor at 3.3 increase heat? What results will improve? stability? performance/lag?

Im not doubting what you said .. only that im curious ..never tought that the speedstep could interfeer badly in there...
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Yes speedstep will keep the comsumption down and save on voltage when doing light tasks, but at the same time makes for a terrible overclocking platform. It's too unreliable, you can't have both. If I were you i would disable speedstepping and settle on a lower overclock until your ready to make the leap. I run 3.24 Stable 24/7 and have had no issues. Can run 3.6 but my cooling is a tad low right now.
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Dissabled C1E, orthos still crashed , one thing achieved: now the vcore is 1,47 idle / 1,44 load

where is the dissable speedstep option? I cant find it.. not even as EIST

EDIT: Ok.. it was not there..i updated BIOS , it was on F4 version (feb 2008) and updated it to latest F6 (my mobo is the EP35, supose the EP has diferent numbers than the P35 despite being the same practically)

will test tomorrow.but for now things changed.. i set up again the overclock same as before (1.8V) and now it reads 1,8V and not 1,4.. so maybe its right this time..
Edited by JLT_GTI - 9/20/09 at 6:17pm
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Dissabled C1E, orthos still crashed , one thing achieved: now the vcore is 1,47 idle / 1,44 load

where is the dissable speedstep option? I cant find it.. not even as EIST

EDIT: Ok.. it was not there..i updated BIOS , it was on F4 version (feb 2008) and updated it to latest F6 (my mobo is the EP35, supose the EP has diferent numbers than the P35 despite being the same practically)

will test tomorrow.but for now things changed.. i set up again the overclock same as before (1.8V) and now it reads 1,8V and not 1,4.. so maybe its right this time..

Excellent man your on the right track. IRRC you still have some VCore room to play with on that chip E family is 1.55v but don't quote me, it's been awhile since iv'e O/C'd one. I know you don't have a quad, but my Overclocking video in my sig might help you with some BIOS settings for your O/C. GL and keep us updated.
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Ok.. im performing test now and so far they all fail in orthos..

i watched your vid (thanks!) and i had the voltages PCIE: +0.1 , FSV: +0.2, MCH: +0.1 C1E and EIST dissabled, for now it doesnt look to make much difference

I tested 1,45 , 1,46 and 1,47V and all failed and within few minutes.. i am testing 1,5V right now.. i have under load 1,48V .

What puzzles me is that before last week's "forzed shutdown" by my careless family it was at 3,33GHZ with 1,44V showing under load and quite stable .... what pissed me off is not be able to achieve something wich was working before for more than a year.. and to think there is people who managed 4ghz from this chip...
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Ok, at 1.55V is passed ORTHOS ok (for 1h at least)
i lowered it 2 steps down to 1,52 and keeps stable..
now i should go down step by step until it crashes i guess
Edited by JLT_GTI - 9/21/09 at 11:01am
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Yea, try backing off VCore to find your instability, then try increasing MCH,FSB Voltage at instability levels. I would also suggest Prime95 instead of orthos.
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