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I have a DS3L board sitting in my tower waiting for a 45nm. I suspect I might have a F5 board and I will see if it will boot after I got the E8400. Even if it doesn't, no biggie...I will probably just grab buy a computer from Futureshop with a C2D, pull it out, flash my bios, put it back in and refund it. Just my $0.02
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Originally Posted by Coelocanth View Post
It's in the BIOS under Advanced BIOS Features. It's called CPU EIST Function.

As far sa fastest speed you can overclock: there's no guarantees. Depends on your chip and the best course of action is to go up a small step at a time and test for stability each time.

I appreciate your quick answer, and it seems you know what you're talking about.....so what pointers would you have for me.....because I really am just increasing stuff not knowing what they do....do i need to overclock ram to make processor go faster? Or does ram have nothing to do with the processor?

Basically, the fastest I could get it was 3.2Ghz....I have the mobo as this thread states DS3L and the Q6600 and can only get it to 3.2Ghz ONLY BECAUSE I read somewhere on this forum that you needed to put the System Memory Multiplier at 2.00, so I did that and it worked at 3.20Ghz....I don't even know what System Memory Multiplier or ANY of the other stuff does....whatever increases processor speed that's what I increased but it shuts down on me at 3.4Ghz which is what I am trying to get it to!!!

Sorry, REALLY new to overclocking! First computer I built EVER!
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I appreciate your quick answer, and it seems you know what you're talking about.....so what pointers would you have for me.....because I really am just increasing stuff not knowing what they do....do i need to overclock ram to make processor go faster? Or does ram have nothing to do with the processor?

Sorry, REALLY new to overclocking! First computer I built EVER!
I'm actually new to it myself. This is my first overclock (and only my third computer build), but I've read a lot of stuff (pretty much everything I could find on Google) before attempting it. Check out This Guide. I found it answered a lot of questions for me. Make sure you grab the software mentioned in that guide, as they're invaluable tools that let you know how your overclock is progressing and whether or not it's stable.

I hesitate to give specific advice, since I'm a novice, but here's what I did: when I started, I went into M.I.T and set my memory multiplier to 2.0. That syncs your memory speed to your FSB. (Your memory is DDR2, so the memory speed will show double your FSB speed. For example, 350 MHz FSB will result in 700 MHz memory speed).

Manually set your PCI Express Frequency to 100 MHz.

Set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled (this allows you to set the FSB frequency).

Set my multiplier to 8x.

Set CPU Host Frequency (this is your FSB) to whatever FSB you want to step up to first. My chip's stock speed was 333. I started my first step at 350, then went up by 10 MHZ at a time after that (remember the FSB is quad-pumped, so 333 MHz = 1333 MHz FSB = 2.66 GHz on the C2D). When I get into the higher regions of OC, I'll only step up by 5 MHz at a time (probably after my next bump up).

After each increment, test your settings with Prime95. I chose to let it run for 2 hours. Make sure you're watching your temps with Core Temp while the test is running. You don't want to burn your chip! If it passes Prime95 after 2 hours, I consider it stable enough to go back in and step up again. When it fails, go back to the BIOS and set your CPU Voltage (CPU Voltage Control) up a notch, then try again. Rinse and repeat. So far I'm at 3.28 GHz on my E6750 at 1.36 volts (according to CPU-z). When I find I can't go any further, I may add a bit to the northbridge, FSB, and PCI-e voltage (if I feel brave) and see if that will get me further. After I find my maximum OC, I'll go back in and fiddle about with the RAM timings and see if I can tighten them up.

There's more to consider, but that's a start. Make sure you read some guides. Google is definitely your friend in this endeavor! Good luck!

Oh, and if anyone who has more knowledge sees that I'm doing something bass-ackwards or just plain stupid, feel free to chime in and correct me. It would be more than appreciated!
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Call me crazy, but shouldn't this thread be called the GA-P31-DS3L thread?

There is no such board as the GA-P35-DS3L, only the GA-P35-DS3R (a much nicer board)

NB: I have the GA-P31-DS3L
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Originally Posted by chompy View Post
Call me crazy, but shouldn't this thread be called the GA-P31-DS3L thread?

There is no such board as the GA-P35-DS3L, only the GA-P35-DS3R (a much nicer board)

NB: I have the GA-P31-DS3L
Yep, you're crazy.

J/K, but really, there IS a GA-P35-DS3L, and it is very popular.
Googled: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ga-p35-ds3l
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Originally Posted by Coelocanth View Post
Thanks Sarge. That's a big help and it means I have a bit more headroom with the vcore.

A couple further questions, if I may:

1) I've got the RAM timings on auto (although I've set the RAM voltage to 2.1 volts, which is what it's rated for). Memroy multiplier is at 2.0, so as I step up the FSB, the RAM speed is also being stepped up. It's DDR2 6400 RAM, and it's now running at 820 MHz (rated at 800), but I've done research on it and it's capable of OCing to 1000 MHz relatively easily. Anyway, is this a good way to go about the OC (finding the highest FSB I can get stable, then work out the RAM timings), or should I unsync the RAM? Should I be setting the timings manually (say at 5-5-5-18)? They currently are set by the mobo and with this last bump they've gone to 5-6-6-19.

2) Thought I'd ask about the flashing red 'system is not optimized' warning in the BIOS (In the M.I.T section). I assume it's there just because I'm overclocking, but is there more to it than that? Should it concern me?

Thanks.
You're exactly right about the memory multiplier, timings, etc. I just left mine on auto, because the stability is good, and I assume I couldn't get them any better myself. You might try adjusting them manually, but when you do you also have to manually adjust a whole bunch of other timings that I have no idea what should be set to. That's the main reason I didn't adjust them.

As far as the 'system is not optimized' warning, it's just because the BIOS seems to think that it can set better voltages than we can, but I've found the AUTO feature for voltages doesn't provide as much stability as just setting them manually. So yes, ignore that.
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I got the 1.0 from a local store about 2 months ago and the 2.0 from Newegg, just 2 weeks ago. The only difference I can see is that the 2.0 has 2 more USB ports in the back and a newer BIOS (F6) installed. I have flashed both to F7 now.

Oh, and one more thing. The 2.0 reads the ram as 533Mhz by SPD, when set to auto and it's 667MHZ ram. I use the same exact ram in both and the 1.0 reads it at 667Mhz like it should. Not a big deal, I guess, because I don't have it set on auto anyways.
Thanks for posting that up, great info to have. I was wondering about the differences between the two boards myself...!
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The DS3L you received from Newegg two weeks ago came with the F6 BIOS--which supports 45nm chips? If that's the case, I'd feel a little better about ordering one along side an E8400 in late January/early February. I'm a little worried about completing a build with an E8400 only to find that my motherboard needs to be flashed to support the CPU.

PS. Does the AC7 Pro have thermal compound already on the unit, that I'd have to remove to apply my own arctic silver?
The AC7 will come with its own thermal compound, but you'll drop your temps a bunch (a good 3-4c at least) by using your own grease like AS5 or something. And yes, the F6 and later BIOS's support 45nm.
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Originally Posted by Coelocanth View Post
I'm actually new to it myself. This is my first overclock (and only my third computer build), but I've read a lot of stuff (pretty much everything I could find on Google) before attempting it. Check out This Guide. I found it answered a lot of questions for me. Make sure you grab the software mentioned in that guide, as they're invaluable tools that let you know how your overclock is progressing and whether or not it's stable.

I hesitate to give specific advice, since I'm a novice, but here's what I did: when I started, I went into M.I.T and set my memory multiplier to 2.0. That syncs your memory speed to your FSB. (Your memory is DDR2, so the memory speed will show double your FSB speed. For example, 350 MHz FSB will result in 700 MHz memory speed).

Manually set your PCI Express Frequency to 100 MHz.

Set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled (this allows you to set the FSB frequency).

Set my multiplier to 8x.

Set CPU Host Frequency (this is your FSB) to whatever FSB you want to step up to first. My chip's stock speed was 333. I started my first step at 350, then went up by 10 MHZ at a time after that (remember the FSB is quad-pumped, so 333 MHz = 1333 MHz FSB = 2.66 GHz on the C2D). When I get into the higher regions of OC, I'll only step up by 5 MHz at a time (probably after my next bump up).

After each increment, test your settings with Prime95. I chose to let it run for 2 hours. Make sure you're watching your temps with Core Temp while the test is running. You don't want to burn your chip! If it passes Prime95 after 2 hours, I consider it stable enough to go back in and step up again. When it fails, go back to the BIOS and set your CPU Voltage (CPU Voltage Control) up a notch, then try again. Rinse and repeat. So far I'm at 3.28 GHz on my E6750 at 1.36 volts (according to CPU-z). When I find I can't go any further, I may add a bit to the northbridge, FSB, and PCI-e voltage (if I feel brave) and see if that will get me further. After I find my maximum OC, I'll go back in and fiddle about with the RAM timings and see if I can tighten them up.

There's more to consider, but that's a start. Make sure you read some guides. Google is definitely your friend in this endeavor! Good luck!

Oh, and if anyone who has more knowledge sees that I'm doing something bass-ackwards or just plain stupid, feel free to chime in and correct me. It would be more than appreciated!
Great tips! I'm thinking about putting a short OCing guide in the first post of this thread for people that come along asking for general OCing advice on this board in particular... would you mind if I used your post as a starting point for that guide?
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Originally Posted by SgtSpike View Post
Yep, you're crazy.

J/K, but really, there IS a GA-P35-DS3L, and it is very popular.
Googled: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ga-p35-ds3l
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Mo...75#Intel%20P35

Google results =/= existence

case and point: http://www.google.com/search?q=definately
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Call me crazy, but shouldn't this thread be called the GA-P31-DS3L thread?

There is no such board as the GA-P35-DS3L, only the GA-P35-DS3R (a much nicer board)

NB: I have the GA-P31-DS3L
Okay, you're crazy.

I bought a GA-P35-DS3L board. You can see it Here, or if you want to check out Gigabyte's web site, you can look at it Here.
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I had ram settings of 5-5-5-15....I THINK....so i put them on 4-4-4-12 and increased voltage by 0.1 and it works....so is that a good thing? Cuz it seems a little bit slower or it's probably my imagination....
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Great tips! I'm thinking about putting a short OCing guide in the first post of this thread for people that come along asking for general OCing advice on this board in particular... would you mind if I used your post as a starting point for that guide?
I wouldn't mind at all. In fact, I'd be flattered to think a noob at OCing like me could actually come up with something useful.
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