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Dunno what to expect from these at 1800mhz. Even my E4400 has always ran at 3ghz, didn't even load windows at stock. My Q6600 I loaded windows at 2.4 and then it has been OC'd ever since. Do you think the e2160 will run vista good enough at stock? 266x9 seemed like a good idea just because I can but I am open to suggestions.
DuRoc, I have no experience with Vista, so I can't say whether it would work well or not without the OC (if you mentioned Vista in your first post, forgive me, as I missed it). If you feel it's warranted, I'd say go ahead. As long as you're sure the system's stable and runs cool enough, then I can't see why it would be a problem for them.
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i wanted to ask you about how to oc my cpu through the bios.. im beginner in oc so i need your help :

Thats what i have there:

Robust Graphics Booster : Auto
Cpu Clock Ratio: 11x
Cpu Host Clock Control: Disabled
Cpu Host Frequenecy(MHZ): 100 (Not available untill you enable the Cpu host clock control).
Pci Express Freqequency(MHZ): Auto
C.I.A. 2: Disabled
Performance Enhance: Turbo
System Multiplier(SPD): Auto
Memory frequenecy(MHZ): 800 800
High Speed Dram dll settings: Option 1

----- System Voltage Optimized -----

System Voltage Control: Manual
DDR2 Overvoltage Control: Normal
PCI-E Overvolatge Control: Normal
FSB Overvoltage Control: Normal
(G) MCH Overvoltage Control: Normal
CPU Voltage Control: Normal
Normal CPU Vcore: 1.32500V

Thats all, and by the way, i dont want to touch the voltages.. oc of 2.8-3.0GHZ will be enough for me.
please tell me what to do exactly if you know!

MUCH THANKS
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Enable the CPU Clock Ratio and slowly up the FSB and test for stability (ORTHOS or Prime 95) until you are at the clock speed you desire.

Some tips

1) Go to "Advanced BIOS Features" and disable the power saving features... These can cause stability problems.

2) Set your System Multiplier to 2.00 to achieve a 1:1 ratio. Once your clock speed is set, you can then raise then based on how fast your memory can run stable. Test using Memtest86.
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Originally Posted by Evolver View Post
i wanted to ask you about how to oc my cpu through the bios.. im beginner in oc so i need your help :

Thats what i have there:

Robust Graphics Booster : Auto
Cpu Clock Ratio: 11x
Cpu Host Clock Control: Disabled
Cpu Host Frequenecy(MHZ): 100 (Not available untill you enable the Cpu host clock control).
Pci Express Freqequency(MHZ): Auto
C.I.A. 2: Disabled
Performance Enhance: Turbo
System Multiplier(SPD): Auto
Memory frequenecy(MHZ): 800 800
High Speed Dram dll settings: Option 1

----- System Voltage Optimized -----

System Voltage Control: Manual
DDR2 Overvoltage Control: Normal
PCI-E Overvolatge Control: Normal
FSB Overvoltage Control: Normal
(G) MCH Overvoltage Control: Normal
CPU Voltage Control: Normal
Normal CPU Vcore: 1.32500V

Thats all, and by the way, i dont want to touch the voltages.. oc of 2.8-3.0GHZ will be enough for me.
please tell me what to do exactly if you know!

MUCH THANKS
Greetings Evolver and welcome! First off, it would be helpful if we knew what your system specs are: CPU, RAM, etc. I suggest filling out the System Information (Edit System) section of your profile so it shows in your signature. Just click on 'My Messages' and look to the left of your screen.

Anyway, some generic advice I can give you to get your started:

Do you have the recommended software for testing your overclocking? I suggest CPU-z, Prime95, and CoreTemp. You'll need these to determine how well your machine is overclocking and also to monitor your temperatures.

Okay.

In your BIOS main screen, go into your Advanced BIOS Features tab and disable CPU EIST Function. This is a power saving option that throttles back your multiplier/speed when your system is idle. It doesn't hurt anything, but I've read reports that it can interfere with overclocking. Once you have a stable overclock, you can try going back in and enabling it to see if it affects performance. If not, then you can leave it on to save on power consumption (and get a reduced power bill).

Now, from your main BIOS screen, go into your M.I.T tab:

Enable CPU Host Clock Control (you won't be able to overclock unless you do this). You'll now be able to manually set your FSB. But first...

Manually set your PCI Express Frequency to 100 MHz. Do not leave it on auto.

Go to System Memory Multiplier and manually change the setting to 2.0 (the numbers in here are not in order, so scroll through the list until your find it). This sets your RAM to operate in sync with your FSB (1:1) ratio.

Go into System Voltage Control and set it to Manual. I know you said you don't want to touch the voltages, but this is necessary IMO, since the BIOS, if left at auto, will overcompensate when overclocking and feed your chip much more voltage than it needs. When you do this, there will be a red warning that flashes and says something like "Warning: System not optimized!" Don't let it freak you out. That's just the BIOS telling you you're overclocking and that you've decided to do it manually instead of letting the BIOS handle all the settings. The BIOS thinks it can do it better than you can. But we know better.

Set your CPU Voltage Control to whatever your Normal CPU Vcore says (just under the CPU Voltage Control). Probably this is going to read 1.35 volts. *edit* I see in your post (which I missed the first time) that it's 1.325 volts. Set it to that to start with.

Depending on what RAM you're using, you may need to change your DDR2 Overvoltage Control as well, but until we know what you've got in there, we can't tell what it should be. Also, once we find out what your RAM is, you should go into your advanced timings and set your first four timings to the RAM's default. I'll tell you how to do that when we find out what RAM you're using.

Once you've got that done, then go up to your CPU Host Frequency and change your FSB to whatever value you want to start at for your first overclock. Do not just crank it up to what you want to have for a final overclock. Go up in small steps and test each one to ensure your system is stable. I recommend only raising it by 10 MHz at a time (Maybe 15 or so for the initial adjustment).

Good luck, and hope that helps.
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I have been messing with stuff for a few hours and I am to a point where I need some help. I have my ram running at 4 4 4 12 the system memory multiplier is set to 2.0 and I increased the voltage +.04 so I should be at 2.2. I have my cpu host frequency up to 390 but I would like to be able to hit 400. At 390 all the voltages are stock (normal cpu vcore is 1.35). I have tried increasing the cpu voltage just a bit and I also tried increasing the front side bus voltage just a tad. Everything I have tried at 400 results in a failed boot. At 390 It seems to be pretty stable with the stock voltage but I have only run orthos for about 15 minutes. What should I change to hit 400?
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Originally Posted by onesojourner View Post
I have been messing with stuff for a few hours and I am to a point where I need some help. I have my ram running at 4 4 4 12 the system memory multiplier is set to 2.0 and I increased the voltage +.04 so I should be at 2.2. I have my cpu host frequency up to 390 but I would like to be able to hit 400. At 390 all the voltages are stock (normal cpu vcore is 1.35). I have tried increasing the cpu voltage just a bit and I also tried increasing the front side bus voltage just a tad. Everything I have tried at 400 results in a failed boot. At 390 It seems to be pretty stable with the stock voltage but I have only run orthos for about 15 minutes. What should I change to hit 400?
You need to run Orthos for a minimum of 2 hours to ensure you're stable enough.

Anyway, try bumping your vcore up a few steps at a time until it becomes stable. You may have to go up to around 1.46 volts in the BIOS. Once you reach a certain point (and for me it was around 385 FSB), you need more and more voltage to get a stable overclock with each small increase.

*edit* Are you using the stock cooler? If so, you better keep an eye on your temps as well, especially when running under load.
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Yes I am running the stock cooler. I will give the to voltage a bigger boost and see how it goes. after running orthos for 15 minutes my temps were in the mid to upper 50s on both cores.
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Originally Posted by Coelocanth View Post
Greetings Evolver and welcome! First off, it would be helpful if we knew what your system specs are: CPU, RAM, etc. I suggest filling out the System Information (Edit System) section of your profile so it shows in your signature. Just click on 'My Messages' and look to the left of your screen.

Anyway, some generic advice I can give you to get your started:

Do you have the recommended software for testing your overclocking? I suggest CPU-z, Prime95, and CoreTemp. You'll need these to determine how well your machine is overclocking and also to monitor your temperatures.

Okay.


In your BIOS main screen, go into your Advanced BIOS Features tab and disable CPU EIST Function. This is a power saving option that throttles back your multiplier/speed when your system is idle. It doesn't hurt anything, but I've read reports that it can interfere with overclocking. Once you have a stable overclock, you can try going back in and enabling it to see if it affects performance. If not, then you can leave it on to save on power consumption (and get a reduced power bill).

Now, from your main BIOS screen, go into your M.I.T tab:

Enable CPU Host Clock Control (you won't be able to overclock unless you do this). You'll now be able to manually set your FSB. But first...

Manually set your PCI Express Frequency to 100 MHz. Do not leave it on auto.

Go to System Memory Multiplier and manually change the setting to 2.0 (the numbers in here are not in order, so scroll through the list until your find it). This sets your RAM to operate in sync with your FSB (1:1) ratio.

Go into System Voltage Control and set it to Manual. I know you said you don't want to touch the voltages, but this is necessary IMO, since the BIOS, if left at auto, will overcompensate when overclocking and feed your chip much more voltage than it needs. When you do this, there will be a red warning that flashes and says something like "Warning: System not optimized!" Don't let it freak you out. That's just the BIOS telling you you're overclocking and that you've decided to do it manually instead of letting the BIOS handle all the settings. The BIOS thinks it can do it better than you can. But we know better.

Set your CPU Voltage Control to whatever your Normal CPU Vcore says (just under the CPU Voltage Control). Probably this is going to read 1.35 volts. *edit* I see in your post (which I missed the first time) that it's 1.325 volts. Set it to that to start with.

Depending on what RAM you're using, you may need to change your DDR2 Overvoltage Control as well, but until we know what you've got in there, we can't tell what it should be. Also, once we find out what your RAM is, you should go into your advanced timings and set your first four timings to the RAM's default. I'll tell you how to do that when we find out what RAM you're using.

Once you've got that done, then go up to your CPU Host Frequency and change your FSB to whatever value you want to start at for your first overclock. Do not just crank it up to what you want to have for a final overclock. Go up in small steps and test each one to ensure your system is stable. I recommend only raising it by 10 MHz at a time (Maybe 15 or so for the initial adjustment).

Good luck, and hope that helps.
much much much thanks man..
you dont know how i appreciate your help..
i have 2048MB Kingston 800MHZ.
Timings:
DIMM1: Kingston KTC1G-UDIMM1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
Edit: By the way, what about the "Performance Enhance"? its on Turbo, should i change it to standard? cuz if i leave it as Turbo, the bios is alerting. thanks again!
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Originally Posted by Evolver View Post
much much much thanks man..
you dont know how i appreciate your help..
i have 2048MB Kingston 800MHZ.
Timings:
DIMM1: Kingston KTC1G-UDIMM1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
Edit: By the way, what about the "Performance Enhance"? its on Turbo, should i change it to standard? cuz if i leave it as Turbo, the bios is alerting. thanks again!
and i have E4500 with arctic cooling freezer 7 pro
Okay, cool.

Your timings are probably fine, although the default BIOS settings may run them a little loose. It won't hurt anything, but it may slightly impact your performance. If you're comfortable with the idea of setting them manually, I suggest going into your BIOS again. On the main screen, hit CTRL + F1. This will allow you to set your advanced RAM timings. (You won't notice that anything has happened when you do this, but don't worry, it shows up in M.I.T.)

Then go to the M.I.T tab and scroll down to your RAM settings. Your advanced timings will show up there. Manually set your first four timings* to 5, 5, 5, and 18. Leave the rest as they are.

*CAS Latency Time - 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS) - 18

As for your chip: the operating range of your vcore is .85 volts to 1.5 volts. As long as you're within that range, you're good. Thermal specification for this chip is 73.3C. As long as you keep your temps below that you're also golden, but I suggest it's best to have it below 60C if you can. You should have no troubles though, since you have an aftermarket cooler.

As for your FSB, if you want to get 3.0 GHz out of it, then with an 11x multiplier, you only need to set it to about 272 in the BIOS. With your RAM at 1:1 ratio, that means your RAM will run at 544 MHz, well within specs** (Also at that speed, you could try to tighten the timings up if you wish). If you want your RAM to run at the default 800 MHz, you'll have to try some different values in your Memory Multiplier to see what you can get.

**Remember it's DDR2 RAM, so it's running speed is reported as double the FSB.

As for Performance Enhance, I'm not entirely certain about it (from what I've read it just helps with the board's performance with regards to read/writes to memory), but if everything works fine at whatever setting you've got it on, then I'd say just leave it as is.
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Originally Posted by Coelocanth View Post
Okay, cool.

Your timings are probably fine, although the default BIOS settings may run them a little loose. It won't hurt anything, but it may slightly impact your performance. If you're comfortable with the idea of setting them manually, I suggest going into your BIOS again. On the main screen, hit CTRL + F1. This will allow you to set your advanced RAM timings. (You won't notice that anything has happened when you do this, but don't worry, it shows up in M.I.T.)

Then go to the M.I.T tab and scroll down to your RAM settings. Your advanced timings will show up there. Manually set your first four timings* to 5, 5, 5, and 18. Leave the rest as they are.

*CAS Latency Time - 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS) - 18

As for your chip: the operating range of your vcore is .85 volts to 1.5 volts. As long as you're within that range, you're good. Thermal specification for this chip is 73.3C. As long as you keep your temps below that you're also golden, but I suggest it's best to have it below 60C if you can. You should have no troubles though, since you have an aftermarket cooler.

As for your FSB, if you want to get 3.0 GHz out of it, then with an 11x multiplier, you only need to set it to about 272 in the BIOS. With your RAM at 1:1 ratio, that means your RAM will run at 544 MHz, well within specs** (Also at that speed, you could try to tighten the timings up if you wish). If you want your RAM to run at the default 800 MHz, you'll have to try some different values in your Memory Multiplier to see what you can get.

**Remember it's DDR2 RAM, so it's running speed is reported as double the FSB.

As for Performance Enhance, I'm not entirely certain about it (from what I've read it just helps with the board's performance with regards to read/writes to memory), but if everything works fine at whatever setting you've got it on, then I'd say just leave it as is.
Thanks again !
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