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Stang: heh, sorry for the misspelling. I always read that damned 'r' in there even though I know it's wrong.

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Yes, manually cleared the CMOS, according to manual instructions.
Only thing I can think of is maybe you have a bum install of CPU-z. Maybe try nuking it off your system, DL it again and reinstall.
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Well, I've tried everything to prevent bios from reseting cpu to default settings. I've disabled usb legacy support for mouse, keyboard, and storage devices. I have no external hard drives pluged in. The only things plugged in are my all-in-one printer webcam, mouse, and keyboard; all in usb. All the legacy parallel and serial ports are disabled. I've tried all sorts of voltage options on MB, MEM, CPU, PCI-e, etc, etc. Both my hard-drive and dvd-rom are parallel ata so I've disabled the serial ata controller, I've disabled the onboard sound since I'm using an audigy 2zs. I' got plenty of cooling; cpu is cool to touch and I have a 120mm rear and 2 front 80mm the whole system is real cool. Running the latest Bios F7 and tried the original bios that came with MB I belive it was F6 and this is a rev 2 board. I'm very disappointed. I had high hopes for this MB/CPU combo when I purchased it and now this. At lest I am able to save different bios profiles, so I have a profile for default settings and one for OC that I'll load when I really need it. Just wish I didn't have to do that, the E4300 is way way faster at 3.0 Ghz. One last thing I'm going to try is change the power supply. It's a little far feteched but it's the last thing I can think of. Maybe the voltages aren't stable or something. I'll report back agin when that is done. THX
Well I think I finally figured out what was causing the reset to default settings on the CPU. I've done about 3 cold boots so far since I did this change and the settings havn't reset. I won't feel safe in saying that it is really fixed until at least a week of cold boots without resseting. It turns out that I had to set my PCI-E to 100 instead of AUTO. I don't know why this would make a difference since in the manual it says AUTO is 100. Oh well, I am now very happy that it is keeping my settings so far. I'll report back to let everyone know weather it really is fixed.
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Originally Posted by carcm700 View Post
Well I think I finally figured out what was causing the reset to default settings on the CPU. I've done about 3 cold boots so far since I did this change and the settings havn't reset. I won't feel safe in saying that it is really fixed until at least a week of cold boots without resseting. It turns out that I had to set my PCI-E to 100 instead of AUTO. I don't know why this would make a difference since in the manual it says AUTO is 100. Oh well, I am now very happy that it is keeping my settings so far. I'll report back to let everyone know weather it really is fixed.
The manual doesn't apply to overclocking.

When the PCI-E freq is on auto, as you raise the FSB, the PCI-E freq is raised. Don't ask me who designed mobo's that way, because it really is terrible, but they did. I can't think of any reason why a person would use auto for their PCI bus.

Anyway, thanks for reporting back, hopefully we'll be able to use that information better in the future.
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Stang: heh, sorry for the misspelling. I always read that damned 'r' in there even though I know it's wrong
It's OK, I was just kidding with you.
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I am overclocking an Intel E2160.

I set the FSB to 333Mhz to achieve 3Ghz core speeds. If I set it to 2.0 for the Memory clock (to achieve 1:1 which I have read is the best ratio for performance... correct me if I am wrong this is my first jump into OCing) I get a memory speed of 667 MHz.

I am using cheap G.Skill 5-5-5-15 DDR2 800Mhz (a 2GB kit). My question is whether or not it would be better to set my memory to 2.4 (if I do i get 800Mhz in Bios). Would it be better or worse performance? Should/could I push the FSB higher (would have to go to 400MHz to reach 800 on the ram with a 2.0 1:1). I don't want a really aggressive overclock so I feel 333 FSB is optimal for me just not sure how to manage the ram.

Also what about voltages. I am managing them manually and have cpu set to 1.325. And should I use overvoltages on ram or anything else? No idea what I am doing here and so far I post and boot just fine without touching them yet (though I haven't tried prime95 or anything similar for a long period of time to test the OC)

One final thing, I know it is cheap memory but would their be any possibility or benefit of tightening the timings? And what would you suggest.


I am pretty happy with a stable 3GHz on the core clock, just not sure about how to just everything else to fall in line with it and deliver the best performance and stability so any help is appreciated.


EDIT: Also CPU-Z shows I am running at a core speed of about 2997MHz on average tho it fluctuates a little between 2997 and 2999 (not familiar with it enough to know if that is normal or not) and it is listing my core voltage at 1.280V instead of my bios set 1.325V. Could that be a problem down the line?
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Originally Posted by Yelgis View Post
I am overclocking an Intel E2160.

I set the FSB to 333Mhz to achieve 3Ghz core speeds. If I set it to 2.0 for the Memory clock (to achieve 1:1 which I have read is the best ratio for performance... correct me if I am wrong this is my first jump into OCing) I get a memory speed of 667 MHz.
That's correct. This is actually a 1:1 ratio (since it's DDR2 memory), which is ideal for performance.

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I am using cheap G.Skill 5-5-5-15 DDR2 800Mhz (a 2GB kit). My question is whether or not it would be better to set my memory to 2.4 (if I do i get 800Mhz in Bios). Would it be better or worse performance? Should/could I push the FSB higher (would have to go to 400MHz to reach 800 on the ram with a 2.0 1:1). I don't want a really aggressive overclock so I feel 333 FSB is optimal for me just not sure how to manage the ram.
If you feel you have your OC where you want it, then I'd say leave it. There's really no reason to push it if you don't want to.

As for the RAM, from what I've read it seems the 1:1 ratio is ideal (reports show very little performance increase with non-synched multipliers), although you can try going with the 2.4 multiplier and see if it makes a difference. I'd most likely leave it as is though.

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Also what about voltages. I am managing them manually and have cpu set to 1.325. And should I use overvoltages on ram or anything else? No idea what I am doing here and so far I post and boot just fine without touching them yet (though I haven't tried prime95 or anything similar for a long period of time to test the OC)
For the sake of stability, I'd set the RAM voltage to whatever is recommended by the vendor (you may have to look it up). Other than that, I'd say leave it if it's stable. If anything, you could try lowering the CPU voltage to see if you can run stable with lower voltage (means less heat and less power consumption).

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One final thing, I know it is cheap memory but would their be any possibility or benefit of tightening the timings? And what would you suggest.
Tighter timings can help performance. You may want to try a 4-4-4-12 setting if you can. That being said, if the RAM's rated as 5-5-5-15, then you may not be able to tighten it. But where it's running at lower than stock speed, it's may be worth a try.


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I am pretty happy with a stable 3GHz on the core clock, just not sure about how to just everything else to fall in line with it and deliver the best performance and stability so any help is appreciated.


EDIT: Also CPU-Z shows I am running at a core speed of about 2997MHz on average tho it fluctuates a little between 2997 and 2999 (not familiar with it enough to know if that is normal or not) and it is listing my core voltage at 1.280V instead of my bios set 1.325V. Could that be a problem down the line?
Yes, CPU-z consistently reports the vcore as lower than the BIOS setting. Remember, as well that when you're under load, you'll experience vdroop and the voltage will drop even more. It shouldn't be a problem. Just check for stability with Prime95. If it's stable, then no worries.

As for the speed, I find mine only fluctuates by a few tenths of a GHz (goes from 3600.1 to 3599.8 or so) Not sure about yours, but I don't think it's anything to worry about. May possibly indicate a need for a bit more voltage, but testing with Prime95 will show you whether you need to increase it or not.
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how would these products run on this mobo?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148076
Crucial ram works well on these boards. Just be sure to set it at +.4v so that it runs at 2.2v.




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That'd probably be a good one, but for just a little bit more money, you could get an E6750 which is 2.66GHz, 4M L2 cache and 1333MHZ FSB, right out of the box.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115029

As far as the video card. Just get the best that you can afford.
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Just wanted to thank you guys as a lurker. I am mostly a mac guy but use a PC for a thing or two sometimes. My 9 year old daughter abscounded my PC and now I can't run my vinyl sign machine.

So I decided to build a box and wanted to get some good performance without breaking the bank.

Buying some PC magazines and lurking around the net brought me to the E2160 which is cheap in Japan.

Anyway I built the box and had an initial failure to overclock until I found this post and one like it on Tom's Hardware.

I'm at 3.28 GHz which was my goal with stock cooling and 8 x 410 and about as pleased as I can be. I'm running Orthos now and at about an hour with no problems or no stupid temperatures.

I do plan on getting a better heatsink and some different thermal compound. I don't like how the Intel fan only makes a little circle of compound leaving a lot of the chip with no contact. Also I'll pick up some more RAM. I bought some off the shelf Apacer RAM and wasn't sure it was up to snuff. Seems to be. Didn't want to buy a bunch and not have it work.

All comments welcome.



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