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um look at corsair

http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/

they use mostly elpedia chips which suck at overclocking

now crucial they use all Micron well they are micron but they use a lot of the best OC stuff D9GMH and D9GKX

corsair high end dominator stuff has MicronD9 but its way too expensive

you can get crucial pc2-6400 that has D9GMH and will be the same as corsair dominators for a much cheaper price
All right. That's all I was looking for. Instead of posting a random post slamming a certain piece of hardware, at least put some supporting information with it. That way some one who doesn't know has an idea of WHY one product is better than another.

Also your post was lacking any kind of punctuation or capitalization. It made it very hard to follow what you were trying to say.

Not trying to start a fight, just trying to keep the thread informative. Thank you for the supporting info, +Rep for that.
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darcness, can you recommend some decent RAM for the P35-DS3L board? Everyone seems to prefer the G.SKILL ......... ugh, nevermind, I just noticed your sig, lol.

G.SKILL again! Why is this such a preferred RAM? I've never heard of them until I started building this new PC.
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cheap and it works. lol
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They are relatively new to the enthusiasts market as far as I know. The reason they are so widely used is price. They make the budget stuff, like I have. It's cheap and just plain works great. Then they make the expensive stuff, like the HZ's that overclock very well and are still priced good for the performance.

I think the vast majority just prefer them for the price/performance ratio. Much like any other component.
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Thanks. Did you get the 2 1GB sticks or the 2 2GB sticks? I can't decide which one to go with and I'm wondering which would be better. Also, with this board can I use a graphics card with the GDDR3 memory type or not?

Thanks again.
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I've seen a lot people buying G-Skill RAM of late. I don't know much about it. Hopefully someone can give you some answers with regards to that kit.

I personally love my Mushkin RAM. It's running at 900 MHz (stock is 800) and I have room for more. I've read from a Mushkin representative that this RAM should be able to OC to 1000 MHz without any problems.

As for OCing RAm in general, I'd say try to keep your 1:1 ratio if you can, add more voltage (within specs of course) if you need it, and just try to keep your timings as tight as you can. Generally, you'll probably have to loosen the timings to 5-5-5-15 or thereabouts if you have a large overclock.
Well, do you think that I'll be okay with that kit at least up to 3.6GHz? I'm assuming so long as it's still 1:1 I shouldn't have to worry about pushing the ram too hard, is this correct?
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You are correct. In all honesty any DDR2-800 shouldn't be limiting your OC's until you get up to the very high FSB settings.
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Hi, I recently gathered everything to build my computer and it has been running stable at 3.2ghz but when it comes to benchmarking its another story. Here are the settings in BIOS and screen shots from (ATITOOL, Memset, Core Temp, CPU-Z,...). Can you guys give me some advice on improving my benchmarks. Example: Super-PI 1MB (42-43secs) Sandra memory ~8000, Sandra CPU lower then c2d t2300.

Robust graphic booster: Auto
Cpu Clock Ratio: 7
Cpu Frequency: 3.20GHz (458x7)
Cpu Host Clock Control: Enable
Cpu Host Frequency (MHz): 458
PCI Express Frequency (MHz): 100
C.I.A.2: Disbled
Performance Enhanced with: Turbo
System Memory Muliplier (SPD): 2.40
Memory Frequency (Mhz): 1099

System Voltage Control: Auto
DDR2 Overvoltage Control: +0.5V (2.3V)

HDD S.M.A.R.T Capability: Disabled
Limit CPUID Max. to 3: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect: Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E): Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2): Disabled
CPU EIST Function: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
Full Screen LOGO Show: Disabled
Init Display First: PCI

http://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php...122_1164lo.jpg

THANKS!!!! ANY ADVICE WOULD BE GREAT
Okay, sorry for the delay. Just a disclaimer to start out: I'm no expert. Having said that, it appears to me you have a pretty substantial OC on your RAM. It's rated for 800 MHz and you've got it running at basically 1100 MHz. That may be interfering with your OC.

What I suggest is to reduce your multiplier to 2.0 (1:1 ratio) and you may find you can even drop your voltage to 2.2 volts. You may even be able to tighten those RAM timings if you do this as well. Try that and see if you can boost your FSB up a bit further.

I also notice you have your System Voltage Control on Auto. Change that to Manual and set your voltage yourself*. The BIOS will overcompensate the vcore and give it more juice than you really need to stay stable.

*When you do this, there will be a red warning that will start to flash. Instead of ***System Voltage Optimized**** you'll get something like ***System Voltage Not Optimized****. Don't let it freak you out. It's just telling you the BIOS isn't taking care of the voltages automatically.

See how that works out and let us know if it helps. Good luck!
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No matter how much voltage I add in the Bios it seems unable for me to boot vista over 3.2ghz. I have tried from 1.350V Bios (which is what I use for a stable 3.2 [9x356] to 1.52 and am never able to boot into windows. Have tried using both the x8 and x9 multiplier. The ram and fsb is 1:1 when trying to do this.

Here's the info of my stable 3.2Ghz 9x356 1.350v from Cpu-Z and my temps when under full load currently:

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In those screens it's showing your RAM at 5:6. May be causing instability issues as far as I can tell. I know that I have the same memory modules and they don't OC really at all. You may want to double check that and make sure you're on 1:1.

Oh wait, you said you put your RAM 1:1 when trying to OC more, or on the 3.2G stable run?

Also, I don't know what temps are what in your systray, but it looks like you're already running fairly hot with that Quad in those Prime runs. It might be crapping out with more volts because it's getting too hot.
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