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post #1021 of 2014
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This isnt the best method. Every chip will be different, a dual core will require less voltage on the NB than a quad regardless of the multi. And as you increase the multi and run the same fsb you will need more voltage on the nb. With the P5n-e, for example, there is a balancing act because as you draw more power (whether it be more ram, bigger cpu, single or dual graphics cards) This isnt as bad a problem on this board because of the 8 phase power on the cpu and dual phase on the ram, but the problem still exists. So I think you would be wasting your time...

You are correct that a quad core requires more NB voltage then a dual core at the same FSB OC. The quad core puts more stress on the NB. But if you say this isnt the best method for finding the FSB to NB voltage balance, please provide a better method. Nothing is perfect, but this is the best method any of us have instead of straight guessing.

If all I cared about was my own OC with my CPU, motherboard and RAM, I wouldnt bother to test at all levels. I could just set the max acceptable NB voltage (with my MCW30 NB water block I could max it out) and the max vcore and just worry about my own OC and forget everyone elses.

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@ericeod

Could you do me an favor and test that your 3,6Ghz (on first page) on Prime95 to be stable?

Prime95 v25.7:
http://www.freewarefiles.com/Prime-V_program_19638.html

..

I am here testing Q9450 on 465FSB and cannot get it stable no matter what I do on Prime95. First I though it was my Power since had AC power loss couple times, but then figured it's the RAM and raised DDR voltage to 2,26v and now I got very very near stable result, but somethings missing..

I am running now 0903 BIOS P5E, Actual voltages:
vCore: 1.25v (BIOS: 1.2750v)
CPU PLL: 1.58v (BIOS Value)(1.52v doesn't seem to suit to my setup)
RAM: 2.26v (BIOS: 2.14v)
FSB VTT: 1.33v (BIOS: 1.38v)
NB: 1.47v (BIOS: 1.43v)(I see no difference on 1.36v-1.47v, but since testing though to keep it higher)
GTL's: 0.63x, 0.67x
The settings on the first page are from my E6600 dual core. I agree with aleiro you will need more NB voltage at 465 FSB. The chipset NB voltage seems to increase at an exponential rate as you go past 425 FSB. Here are my voltages for 423FSB Prime stable. Through previous testing on the o0219 bios, I was able to get 450FSB stable at 1.55v to the NB. I cant afford to test right now since my laptop just broke (replacing MB soon) and I need a 100% working PC for college. Here is a link to RPIJG's Rampage Formula thread. here is currently running a Q9650 above 4.0GHz:

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Edited by ericeod - 10/7/08 at 9:54am
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post #1022 of 2014
I have this mobo... Will flashing it to the rampage bios help me OC my ram/cpu better? I can get to 3.97ghz OCCT 2hours stable, but not intel burn test stable (idc about that) and I think the limited ram options on the board are holding me back and making my OC unstable sometimes.
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post #1023 of 2014
I would do it. The Rampage Formula or the P5E Deluxe Bios both have almost the same features in terms of overclocking RAM. I have used both and personally I like the Deluxe BIOS better. The RF Bios has a few extra features, but I dont use them. Although the NB temp monitoring would be nice to have in the P5E Deluxe Bios. Either one will do.
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post #1024 of 2014
could you help me find the bios that you think I should use? I think I know how to flash it since I did it once with my 680i SE crappiest mobo ever.
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post #1025 of 2014
in the very first post of this thread is the P5E Deluxe Bios link, at the top.
here is the RF0410 link http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us

select your OS and it will pop up
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post #1026 of 2014
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why dont you increase the vcore? Second I would lower the cpu pll 9 time out of 10 it doesnt help as much as you think it does.
Yeah, I tested that the setting 'Auto' actually bumps maximum values out and gives the core 1.325v exact. but for some reason I cannot get it stable under Prime95 although it seems stable by everything else. Probably it goes stable with something like 1.65v NB and little more to memory 2.28-2.30v as 4 sticks takes a lot more voltage and with 2 sticks I got much longer time from Prime95.
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I would do it. The Rampage Formula or the P5E Deluxe Bios both have almost the same features in terms of overclocking RAM. I have used both and personally I like the Deluxe BIOS better. The RF Bios has a few extra features, but I dont use them. Although the NB temp monitoring would be nice to have in the P5E Deluxe Bios. Either one will do.
Are you saying that if I flash to the RF bios I'll be able to monitor my NB & SB's temperatures?

Will the led's light up, and reset button appear as well?

If the temps will appear I'll flash my bios, if anything, just to check my temps..
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Are you saying that if I flash to the RF bios I'll be able to monitor my NB & SB's temperatures?

Will the led's light up, and reset button appear as well?

If the temps will appear I'll flash my bios, if anything, just to check my temps..
Not exactly. There is no NB temp sensor on the P5E, so technically you cant. But when I flashed to the RF BIOS I was able to go in to the BIOS and under the Power tab, then check the Hardware Monitor tab the NB temp was in there and I could see how hot it was. Im not sure how accurate is it though. If I remember corectly my NB was around 38C or 39C. Im pretty sure the SB was their too. They can only be seen in the BIOS though, so no real benefit.
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Not exactly. There is no NB temp sensor so technically you cant. But when I flashed to the RF BIOS I was able to go in to the BIOS and under the Power tab, then check the Hardware Monitor tab the NB temp was in there and I could see how hot it was. Im not sure how accurate is it though. If I remember corectly my NB was around 38C or 39C. Im pretty sure the SB was their too. They can only be seen in the BIOS though, so no real benefit.
Think that will help me get an aspect of temperatures still. I've got 467 fsb and 1,51 NB volt (if i remember correctly). Although I've mounted a 40mm fan on the NB heatsink, so I should be ok?!
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ya it should be somewhat accurate. at least in the same ball park. you should be fine though, plus you have a fan on there, so no real cause for worry.
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