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post #1131 of 2014
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The reason I was running a lower NB voltage in the screenshots on the first page is because it was with a dual core. it just takes less votage compared to a quad because the quad puts more stress on the NB. On my current Rampage Formula board, I am running NB at 1.45v for a 423 FSB OC.

As for you Termination voltage, 1.32v - 1.34v will be the max you should ever need. I wouldnt leave it at 1.4v.
Ahh. Brilliant ericeod. That represents the last few missing pieces of the puzzle for me. I have now run prime95 for 4 hours with the last mentioned settings (@ 3.51ghz) for 4 hours without fail. Maxed out at a very acceptable 60 degrees on one core during these hours. Meanwhile, I have now put fsb term volt at 1.32, and it looks good so far. Guess I'm getting close to final goal. I'll try to raise the nb one notch (to 1.43@413 fsb) if p95 fails during this "final" test with no ram oc. (and to think that I told everyone I'd never oc this cpu. never thought this would be SO exciting AND fun. hehe)
    
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post #1132 of 2014
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Hello all,

Just new to the forum and I have a question about overclocking a Q9400 on the P5E motherboard. I want to lift it up from stock clock (2.66Ghz) to 3.0Ghz (375FSBx8MP). So yesterday I went into the BIOS, tested 340, 350, 360, 365, 370 FSB. All worked just fine, but when I entered 375 FSB it didn't boot anymore. RAM at 5-5-5-15-2T @ 1066Mhz 2.2v.

Isn't it possible to get it to 3.0Ghz with just stock voltages etc? I know the Q6600 can from 2.4 to 3.0.

Could anyone help me get the Q9400 to 3.0Ghz or maybe even to 3.6Ghz?
I'm no expert, but it may be wise to slack off the 2.2 volts on the ram, especially if you took the ram down to 1000. I've read several places that the P5E tends to overvolt the ram a tad. Between 0.05-0.08 to be more specific. I have no way to confirm this now though. Take it or leave it.
    
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You can confirm it easily enough. Go into the BIOS and look.
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post #1134 of 2014
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I'm no expert, but it may be wise to slack off the 2.2 volts on the ram, especially if you took the ram down to 1000. I've read several places that the P5E tends to overvolt the ram a tad. Between 0.05-0.08 to be more specific. I have no way to confirm this now though. Take it or leave it.
........

Special thanks to Karl eller for the post on vdimm points. I used my Fluke 177 digital meter and read the yellow and one of the blue marked readout point from his post.


When I set the vdimm in bios to 2.16v, I get a reading of 2.21v from the multi meter. Then, when I set the vdimm to 2.18v in bios, I get a reading of 2.238v on the meter. And finally, when I set vdimm to 2.2v in bios, I get a reading of 2.25v on the meter.

I did find that my 1.40v vcore set in bios, which loads into windows at 1.38v as shown in CPU-Z, actually is 1.376v when metered while running Orthos.
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post #1135 of 2014
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You can confirm it easily enough. Go into the BIOS and look.
Nope. I cant get any volt readings on ram in my original p5e (non-deluxe) bios, or any other way as far as I know (other than volt meters). Alternative bioses I havent really gotten into, but is there a sensor for this in the first place on normal p5e's? I was talking about the REAL volt levels here. I may have misunderstood your comment though.

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........

Special thanks to Karl eller for the post on vdimm points. I used my Fluke 177 digital meter and read the yellow and one of the blue marked readout point from his post.


When I set the vdimm in bios to 2.16v, I get a reading of 2.21v from the multi meter. Then, when I set the vdimm to 2.18v in bios, I get a reading of 2.238v on the meter. And finally, when I set vdimm to 2.2v in bios, I get a reading of 2.25v on the meter.

I did find that my 1.40v vcore set in bios, which loads into windows at 1.38v as shown in CPU-Z, actually is 1.376v when metered while running Orthos.
Ok. Great ericeod. As long as cpu-z doesnt underreport the voltage, I'm fine with it. Cpu-z is quite accurate then. When it comes to the ram, there IS overvolting going on at least, but maybe not as much as 0.08. More like 0.05, judging from your testing. This is helpful for me though.

I also now understand why people in this thread have pointed out that the P5E doesnt like the corsair dominators too much. I'm having troubles with getting to 1066 or above in my setup (actually 1033 is the closest I can select because of the dividers). 991 mhz is what I'm up at right now, and memtest accepted 2 runs on these settings. 1100 passed once, but started freaking out on the second run. I guess I can live with 991 if I have to though. Quite a lot faster than before due to the 413 fsb setting anyways. Hehe. Could one notch up on nb voltage theoretically help me get higher ddr frequency because of larger power requirements on the nb, or is this purely done by the ram volt setting in bios?


(btw. Not using the dominator fans, as the noise of the 3 tiny 5000 rpm fans freaks me out when audially compared to my other 120mm's and single 200mm. But, I've read that they really dont help that much. Maybe for longevity though ).
    
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post #1136 of 2014
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Nope. I cant get any volt readings on ram in my original p5e (non-deluxe) bios, or any other way as far as I know (other than volt meters). Alternative bioses I havent really gotten into, but is there a sensor for this in the first place on normal p5e's? I was talking about the REAL volt levels here. I may have misunderstood your comment though.



Ok. Great ericeod. As long as cpu-z doesnt underreport the voltage, I'm fine with it. Cpu-z is quite accurate then. When it comes to the ram, there IS overvolting going on at least, but maybe not as much as 0.08. More like 0.05, judging from your testing. This is helpful for me though.

I also now understand why people in this thread have pointed out that the P5E doesnt like the corsair dominators too much. I'm having troubles with getting to 1066 or above in my setup (actually 1033 is the closest I can select because of the dividers). 991 mhz is what I'm up at right now, and memtest accepted 2 runs on these settings. 1100 passed once, but started freaking out on the second run. I guess I can live with 991 if I have to though. Quite a lot faster than before due to the 413 fsb setting anyways. Hehe. Could one notch up on nb voltage theoretically help me get higher ddr frequency because of larger power requirements on the nb, or is this purely done by the ram volt setting in bios?


(btw. Not using the dominator fans, as the noise of the 3 tiny 5000 rpm fans freaks me out when audially compared to my other 120mm's and single 200mm. But, I've read that they really dont help that much. Maybe for longevity though ).
Increasing the voltage might help. As long as you stay under 2.3v, I dont see you damaging the board at all. The ram on the other hand, I just dont know. I say give it a shot.
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post #1137 of 2014
I'd go back to the OP of this thread and follow the nice directions there to stick the Rampage Formula BIOS on there. Aside from the voltage monitors, you may get some extra stability at higher FSB. I did.
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post #1138 of 2014
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Sounds to me like these Asus (X38/48)boards dont like Corsair RAM as Dan4Real and myself have been having problems with the same Corsair Dominator kit. Neither of us can get 1066 stable. I was able to boot at 1133, but it was very unstable. I had such high hopes for this kit too
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They don't do well with tight timings or more volts like the Micron D9's- higher clocks are possible with less voltage(2.25+ voltage on these actually seems to destabilize clocks)- although I have not been able to get CAS3 at any speed or CAS4 @ 1200+MHz
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post #1139 of 2014
I flashed my Maximus Formula from bios 504 to 1207. It gave me the 5 seconds until reboot notification. Upon reboot it did not post. Only when I bought some new ram would it boot perfectly fine at the rated speed.

So I think it's safe to assume these are incompatible with Maximus Formula bios 1207. (I wouldn't use them on this board period. Just to be safe as I had problems getting them to run at 1066 as intended.)



On a side note, hopefully I can get an actual refund.
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I also now understand why people in this thread have pointed out that the P5E doesnt like the corsair dominators too much. I'm having troubles with getting to 1066 or above in my setup (actually 1033 is the closest I can select because of the dividers). 991 mhz is what I'm up at right now, and memtest accepted 2 runs on these settings. 1100 passed once, but started freaking out on the second run. I guess I can live with 991 if I have to though. Quite a lot faster than before due to the 413 fsb setting anyways. Hehe. Could one notch up on nb voltage theoretically help me get higher ddr frequency because of larger power requirements on the nb, or is this purely done by the ram volt setting in bios?
I am gonna try the Dominators one last time with the RF 0410 BIOS and see if they will work at 1066. I only tried the P5E Dlx 0205 and RF 0501 BIOS. I have already tried upping the NB votlage and RAM voltage and nothing has worked so far. I'll let you know what happens later on though.
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