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So whats the difference between the two packagers?
    
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So whats the difference between the two packagers?
Well... They're kinda similar... In fact, they're quite similar. One can use .rpm files to install, the other can use .deb files to install programs

I use Suse Linux which uses RPM. I've also used Debian's Synaptic, and I've found them to be very similar.

Synaptic/apt-get is very renowned for its ease of use, though. If anyone wants to list pros/cons between the two, I'd like to know them
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I'm personally a big fan of Arch's Pacman (best. name. ever.) and ArchBuild system.
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I'm personally a big fan of Arch's Pacman (best. name. ever.)
Slapt-Get would have to be a close second
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so i've decided to give linux a try since my desktop needs to be reformatted and i cant find my XP cd anywhere T_T

i'm also really annoyed of the instability and vulnerability of windows.

i never had anything against linux, i was just reluctant about trying it because of the difficulty learning how to use all those commands.
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Heh, to restate what I have said before:

1) You don't need to learn commands. Linux is now entirely usable (although you do loose some features (albeit ones that wouldn't exist in windows) without it) without ever touching a CLI.
2) Learning commands is not something you need to do in one go, it's something you pick up as you go along.

It's really easy if you give it a fair shot, I'm sure you'll be fine.
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Perfectly fine, but I'd appreciate if people would come into this thread and accept the challenge or just ignore the thread altogether rather than justifying their unwillingness to try it out.
In that case, you will appreciate the fact that I have actually run distros of Linux before, and can appreciate my sharing of the reasons why I decided to stick with windows (I actually still run a variety of distros in VMware when I need to). Therefore Ill assume Im not one of these unwilling "people" you refer to in your post.

And I quote from the original post:

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At worst, if you turn out disliking Linux you can then say 'I've tried it, I dislike it, here is why.' - and If you can say that, give a good reason, and have really done it – no one can (with any real argument) say anything against you – and everyone wants that!
So no, I will not simply "ignore this thread altogether"!
    
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I have used Linux, and yes it is nice, but here is why I do not use it now, and don't recommend using it:

I am in the IT service field. I help people with problems, and about 80% are very computer illiterate. Because of that, I have to know computers inside and out, and know how to explain things to them. So, I use Windows, like 95% of home and business users. I keep up on updates, problems, how to configure all sorts of hardware, etc. My home use helps me keep up with everything. Sure, Linux is free, looks good, but it is a pain to configure correctly. Put in new hardware, and it pretty much hates you. This is impossible for the general computer user. Help can be found on the internet, but most of the time it is buried in forums and documents.

Unless Linux can break into mainstream IT support and hardware configuration, it's market share on the personal side will never make any gains. Servers are another story, since there are dedicated techs for them. If I worked on that side of IT, then sure, I might run Linux at home. But right now, it does not make sense. The support web for Windows is so broad, and unless Linux can match that, I hardly see it going mainstream.
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Everyone saying configuration is a pain, you obviously have not tried the latest distros. It really just is not so anymore.

and ALK, again, when did you last try it? You never really gave a very good argument in my opinion - I'm not bashing, I'm asking.
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Everyone saying configuration is a pain, you obviously have not tried the latest distros. It really just is not so anymore.

and ALK, again, when did you last try it? You never really gave a very good argument in my opinion - I'm not bashing, I'm asking.
The last time I downloaded VMware would be... about 7 months ago. And VMware comes with an Ubuntu iso image. I also run Backtrack2 - http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html
So a 7 month old version of Ubuntu.

I honestly cannot BEGIN to comprehend the MASSIVE leap forward the majority of Linux distros have OBVIOUSLY made since I last installed Linux permenantly on a box.

Another VALID reason I run windows is so I can use MathCAD and ProEngineer for University coursework, of which MathCAD is only available for windows, and there is a port of ProEngineer for Linux thats in the early stages, but its really only available on windows.

Im getting the impression you seriously doubt that Ive ever even touched a Linux distro and that Im secretly a Linux hater! You and THG just keep hounding me for more reasons why I don't use Linux, of which I'm assuming the obvious time aspect to set-up and configure everything has been considered. And more importantly do I WANT to spend the time setting something up again when I've already tried it and concluded that it's not worth the effort?

Linux is the tinkerers DREAM OS. Sometimes I'm like that (Hence DFI board!) but sometimes I just want a PC that works so I can actually use it rather than trail through pages and pages of a forum trying to work out how to configure my Broadcomm chipset wifi adaptor or enable a bigger screen resolution in Xserver or any other number of configurations that one has to undertake to achieve desireable desktop conditions!

I've been at both sides of this arguement before. The for and against (Believe it or not!). When I used Linux and I also had the time on my hands to configure it I thought it was the bees knees, but now I run a tight schedule and I dont have time to configure everything and search forums for solutions. It's definately not a practical solution when windows runs everything I need it to run, is something I'm already used to, and boots faster.

Lattyware, you asked for both sides of this issue, and I have given you plenty of valid points as to why I choose not to run Linux. I respect why others use Linux due to its modularity, ability to modify programs if you're good at programming, and even design your own hardware in certain situations. At least try to respect why I and many others don't run Linux daily.
    
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