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Thats too much money to be worth it. High end ddr3+ a mobo for it. It might be worth it if socket 775 was staying around awhile. But since intel is changing sockets next year anyways its not worth the money imo. My 2x2gb kit only cost 115 and is able to run up to 1130mhz. Thats plenty fast for me(and almost anyone else) for now. All just my opinion ofc.
Why do you think I don't have DDR3?

It was my mistake in thinking he wanted the FSB bandwidth saturated and not just the speeds matched. I don't think it's worth the money either and would not recommend it myself. I do run with a saturated bandwidth most of the time as I generally don't overclock my CPU.
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Who cares about the ram BS. If he runs a 1:1 ratio with a 500mhz. quad pumped FSB his ram WILL BE runninng at 1000mhz. All the talk about FSB saturation is off topic and pointless to his question.
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I'm not even going to join in the RAM argument those two are having, but let me give you a bit of advice on the rest of your build. Most of your choices are very good except the PSU you have chosen. Consider either going with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=Corsair%2b620

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...bCooling%2b610

None of that good hardware is going to matter if your PSU blows up in a few months

The only other question I might have is with your cooler. The one you have listed has gotten good reviews but I would prefer either the Tuniq 120 or the Thermalright Ultra 120 over it.
    
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I highly doubt you are going to get 4.5 GHz on air stable 24/7, as that's what the lucky people are getting on water. I would around 4 GHz if you get a good one....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=E8400
Here is a good place to start.....lots of people here with that CPU.

Look at THIS!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=173771
E8500 4GHz with........1.232V
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Thank you all for your responses! I've already ordered the NV120 CPU Cooler - I actually was taking a gamble here because I expressly wanted something that might be better than the TRUE 120 in order to accomplish this. Also, with the Antec 900 I'd either need to remove the side case fan or mod it - I've found that side fan makes some pretty substantial (3-5c) differences, so I didn't want to mess with it.

For the Mobo, this is where I'm really torn - the Gigabyte P35 DS4 has great FSB overclocking, and nice chipset heatsink cooling. The abit IP35 Pro though is on sale at the moment via NewEgg, but the current issues with the 45nm CPUs and not as great chipset cooling is kind of leaning me towards the Gigabyte.

For the Power Supply, the Cooler Master Real Power 650W isn't to be confused with the Extreme Power 650W. I'm hedging my bet that the Real Power 650W should be more than enough to meet my needs for the e8400, and considering it'll be a Non-SLI config. Am I right here? I already own the PSU, so am hoping so

Thanks again for all this input, and I'm digging the FSB/RAM ratio discussion as I've been really trying to wrap my head around it this past week
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CoolerMaster's real Power series provides good power, but it is loud and can be inefficient at high loads, so if you're experiencing system instability, swap it out for a Corsair 620HX.
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post #27 of 43
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Thank you all for your responses! I've already ordered the NV120 CPU Cooler - I actually was taking a gamble here because I expressly wanted something that might be better than the TRUE 120 in order to accomplish this. Also, with the Antec 900 I'd either need to remove the side case fan or mod it - I've found that side fan makes some pretty substantial (3-5c) differences, so I didn't want to mess with it.

For the Mobo, this is where I'm really torn - the Gigabyte P35 DS4 has great FSB overclocking, and nice chipset heatsink cooling. The abit IP35 Pro though is on sale at the moment via NewEgg, but the current issues with the 45nm CPUs and not as great chipset cooling is kind of leaning me towards the Gigabyte.

For the Power Supply, the Cooler Master Real Power 650W isn't to be confused with the Extreme Power 650W. I'm hedging my bet that the Real Power 650W should be more than enough to meet my needs for the e8400, and considering it'll be a Non-SLI config. Am I right here? I already own the PSU, so am hoping so

Thanks again for all this input, and I'm digging the FSB/RAM ratio discussion as I've been really trying to wrap my head around it this past week
I would go for the FoxConn MARS if you're getting a P35 board. If you're planning on going Crossfire in the future then I would go with an X38 based board.......they clock with some crazy high FSBs and support full 16x/16x FSB (that guy from XS was running 560 MHz in 3dmark06, 580 in 1M SuperPi.......which is impressive.
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post #28 of 43
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Who cares about the ram BS. If he runs a 1:1 ratio with a 500mhz. quad pumped FSB his ram WILL BE runninng at 1000mhz. All the talk about FSB saturation is off topic and pointless to his question.
"Huh?" to your first setence, and "no, it's perfectly on topic" to your second.

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Thank you all for your responses! I've already ordered the NV120 CPU Cooler - I actually was taking a gamble here because I expressly wanted something that might be better than the TRUE 120 in order to accomplish this. Also, with the Antec 900 I'd either need to remove the side case fan or mod it - I've found that side fan makes some pretty substantial (3-5c) differences, so I didn't want to mess with it.

For the Mobo, this is where I'm really torn - the Gigabyte P35 DS4 has great FSB overclocking, and nice chipset heatsink cooling. The abit IP35 Pro though is on sale at the moment via NewEgg, but the current issues with the 45nm CPUs and not as great chipset cooling is kind of leaning me towards the Gigabyte.

For the Power Supply, the Cooler Master Real Power 650W isn't to be confused with the Extreme Power 650W. I'm hedging my bet that the Real Power 650W should be more than enough to meet my needs for the e8400, and considering it'll be a Non-SLI config. Am I right here? I already own the PSU, so am hoping so

Thanks again for all this input, and I'm digging the FSB/RAM ratio discussion as I've been really trying to wrap my head around it this past week
HDD ordered already as well? As far as the RAM bit goes, you won't get any RAM going near the speed required to saturate your FSB so don't even worry about it. I made a mistake in thinking you wanted to saturate your FSB but you only wanted a 1:1 ratio of speeds. I got the terminology mixed up. If you are overclocking significantly, a 1:1 in speeds is pretty good.
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No, hard drive isn't ordered yet. Any other opinions for that? Lots of great reviews I've been seeing for the 7200.11, especially with its 32MB cache. Would I be wise and try to do a 1:1 with this config or focus instead on trying to fill as much of the bus as possible? Thanks again

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"Huh?" to your first setence, and "no, it's perfectly on topic" to your second.

HDD ordered already as well? As far as the RAM bit goes, you won't get any RAM going near the speed required to saturate your FSB so don't even worry about it. I made a mistake in thinking you wanted to saturate your FSB but you only wanted a 1:1 ratio of speeds. I got the terminology mixed up. If you are overclocking significantly, a 1:1 in speeds is pretty good.
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Ooo just saw the FoxConn Mars.... wow, looks really nice! So the overall opinion you're finding is that it beats out the Gigabyte P35 DS4?

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I would go for the FoxConn MARS if you're getting a P35 board. If you're planning on going Crossfire in the future then I would go with an X38 based board.......they clock with some crazy high FSBs and support full 16x/16x FSB (that guy from XS was running 560 MHz in 3dmark06, 580 in 1M SuperPi.......which is impressive.
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