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So, does this mean that running S&M is dangerous?
It can be, S&M stresses the CPU harder than any other test out there. So parts can fail if temps and such are not monitored.
Basically, what that says is they are not responsible if you fry your CPU or other various components.
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Oh, geez, the stuff I miss when I'm on the phone with my girlfriend...

Here's my one comment, and I'll try to keep it short: You can't go into this (overclocking) without knowing some basic rules.
  • Overclocking is risky; any and every risk you do in pursuit of performance through overclocking you assume freely on your own.
  • The loss of warranty coverage is often one of those risks. If you want to overclock, know that your warranty is basically kaput. Honor bounds you to always be mindful of this when making claims. Some people may lie about this point, but I personally will not do it (lie) when asked by the manufacturer if I overclocked something.
  • It is assumed that, since you are a part of this group (OCN), you have an interest in overclocking. Therefore, it should be quite unnecessary to lecture people about the need to respect the terms of a manufacturer's warranty coverage. This is especially true if the one doing the lecturing has no legal leg to stand on since he/she also overclocks. Suffice it to say that anyone who overclocks or does any kind of modifications to his/her equipment ought to be aware of the risks involved (including the violation of the entirety of the terms of the warranty coverage); ignorance is not an excuse, but this is entirely between an individual and the manufacturer.

It's a bit, I don't know, inappropriate to call anyone out when it comes to respecting warranties. That's up to the person who made the choice to violate certain terms of it (thereby violating the entire warranty agreement with the manufacturer); compliance is not a matter of being selective as far as which terms of the warranty are violated. Once you willingly choose to make these parts run faster than stock, you've already kissed that warranty good-bye.

Before I get called out now for my Asus RMA, here's a reminder: Asus has no such qualms about OCing their motherboards. Thus when mine broke and I arranged for an RMA for my board, I did not violate any warranty terms.

We're all free to do what we want. And that includes violating the warranty, if we so choose to do so in our pursuit of performance. But if your parts break in such a pursuit, that's a risk you yourself took, and have no one else to blame.
    
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So, does this mean that running S&M is dangerous?
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It can be, S&M stresses the CPU harder than any other test out there. So parts can fail if temps and such are not monitored.
Basically, what that says is they are not responsible if you fry your CPU or other various components.
Sorry for the double post, but I thought I'd answer this before heading for bed.

S&M is, by far, the most demanding stability tester that I have ever used. It has a well-deserved reputation for literally breaking weak or failing components if they are subjected to S&M. I witnessed this capability first-hand with a set of DDR500 Corsairs. This RAM kit basically could never run at its certified DDR500 speed, no matter what adjustments I tried. When I discovered S&M, I read about its fearsome reputation. Curiosity got the better of me and I ran my system through its entire suite of tests.

The Corsairs finally cried enough, and I hosed my OS at that time because S&M killed the RAM.

At least Corsair treated me well and refunded my money (they were no longer making that RAM kit and could not replace it with an equivalent set) completely, after I explained that my previous attempts to get it to run at DDR500 were never successful. Corsair determined that it was a faulty kit, and all turned out well.

This particular personal incident is one reason why we have that disclaimer on the first post of the Club thread. If you decide to do anything, any risks and any consequences you assume purely on your own.
    
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ok, OCed my puter back to 2.7 to this and ran s&m and failed on cache 1 passed on cache 2 what does those mean?
passed cpu (integer) mmx/sse is not selected and failed cpu (fpu) and what is this vga heating warp tunnel thing?
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ok, OCed my puter back to 2.7 to this and ran s&m and failed on cache 1 passed on cache 2 what does those mean?
passed cpu (integer) mmx/sse is not selected and failed cpu (fpu) and what is this vga heating warp tunnel thing?
Evil Eddie, the OC is not stable. Try adding a little bit of VCore incrementally. If the test goes on for a longer duration, then you can deduce that the lack of VCore was the cause of the test failure (instability). If the additional VCore makes no difference, then you're likely beyond the limits of your components' overclocking capabilities already (i.e., you need to dial the speed down until you find stability again).

Good luck.
    
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Evil Eddie, the OC is not stable. Try adding a little bit of VCore incrementally. If the test goes on for a longer duration, then you can deduce that the lack of VCore was the cause of the test failure (instability). If the additional VCore makes no difference, then you're likely beyond the limits of your components' overclocking capabilities already (i.e., you need to dial the speed down until you find stability again).

Good luck.
raised vcore .025 more, passed cache 1 this time but still failed cpu(fpu) what helps that? it has been on for an hour now, no hangs no BSOD(knock on wood).
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raised vcore .025 more, passed cache 1 this time but still failed cpu(fpu) what helps that? it has been on for an hour now, no hangs no BSOD(knock on wood).
You're on the right track, Evil Eddie. Increase your VCore gradually again; I'm betting you'll progress further into the stress test.

Good luck.

(I wish the same for myself in falling asleep. I keep waking up.)
    
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You're on the right track, Evil Eddie. Increase your VCore gradually again; I'm betting you'll progress further into the stress test.

Good luck.

(I wish the same for myself in falling asleep. I keep waking up.)
ya i was gana say, didnt you say your heading to bed? lol
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HELP me out guys, I went to play CS game, then I got bluescreen, and my Pc shutted off, Now i cant even start my PC, there comes error message: "DISC BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISC AND PRESS ENTER" I have tried many things to fix this, without any sucsess, hope u can help me anyway. I have tried to Load BIOS defult settings etc.
Here is several pictures of the error messages I got. I havent overclocked! Its not about it.


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http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/14...oval-pics.html

meh thats all i could find on me removing my IHS. it has a couple of pictures, but i was pretty drunk so i don't think i wrote a step by step instruction book to do it.
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