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Pio, what is the brand/model of the UPS devices? How many machines do you have on each UPS? If your ladies machine stayed on during the rolling blackouts and yours turned off then it sounds like the batteries need to be replaced. It's recommended that you replace the batteries every 1-3 years. If they are Ultra UPS's then I can understand why your machines turned off.

Sounds like you already purchased a PSU but I always go to jonnyguru.com for researching purposes before I buy anything PSU related. The power supply should be your biggest investment, don't go cheap.

Lastly, throw away the Apevia and don't waste your time.

.......
The brand / model of the UPS devices are both APC, and they are both at LEAST 8 years old. Batteries have NEVER been replaced, however they were perfectly fine before we moved here. I think having them sit on the cement floor in my parent's garage may have completely killed the batteries (like it does car batteries). So I'm just going to use a good surge protector from now on instead. I had 2 machines, with 2 UPS devices. And I also had 3 routers and a modem, a printer, and my speakers and accessories plugged into them as well.

I haven't purchased a PSU yet. However I am looking at this PSU. Its an Antec NeoPower 550w Modular PSU with 42a on the 12v rail. I can manage to get this PSU for a whopping $34.99 with free shipping because I get $10 off that item (it was $59.99 yesterday, and newegg honored it for me), and I also get $25 off my next order. I'm SERIOUSLY considering that PSU, unless I'm told otherwise.

As far as the Apevia....I have plans for it . It has HUGE capacitors in it. I wouldn't expect those 2 huge capacitors died, and I hope they didn't. I have a use for them. Did you know that capacitors, is all you need to make "bass blockers" for speakers? They need to be a specific rating, and handle enough power. I will look into that in a while. But if I recall correctly, the capacitors that are in PSU's can work perfect as a bass blocker (High Pass Crossover). And I plan to pull those capacitors out and use them for that function in the future (car or home, haven't decided yet).

But after that, the Apevia is DEFINITELY being thrown away . I'll salvage what parts out of it that I can (the fans and fan controller)....then junk it.
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So I built this computer almost 5 years ago when I was graduating highschool and it has been great but I just built a new one so this one went on the shelf in peices as it wasnt working. I decided to get it out and see if I could get it running. Painted and modded the case and then put it back together.

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So I built this computer almost 5 years ago when I was graduating highschool and it has been great but I just built a new one so this one went on the shelf in peices as it wasnt working. I decided to get it out and see if I could get it running. Painted and modded the case and then put it back together.

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Sorry About the Screenshot I run Dual Screens

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Was sli originally but I had a card fail and never replaced it.
Sound Card: Creative Audigy 2zs
Case: ThermalTake Xvaser Torn apart and stripped.
Sweet! However, you do realize that XFX has a double lifetime warranty, right? You could just RMA your dead card, and get a replacement...you might even get lucky and get a MUCH better card back .
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SWEET Cdpkook132! How did those ram coolers work out for you?
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The brand / model of the UPS devices are both APC, and they are both at LEAST 8 years old. Batteries have NEVER been replaced, however they were perfectly fine before we moved here. I think having them sit on the cement floor in my parent's garage may have completely killed the batteries (like it does car batteries). So I'm just going to use a good surge protector from now on instead. I had 2 machines, with 2 UPS devices. And I also had 3 routers and a modem, a printer, and my speakers and accessories plugged into them as well.

I haven't purchased a PSU yet. However I am looking at this PSU. Its an Antec NeoPower 550w Modular PSU with 42a on the 12v rail.
Pio, you've had these APC units for 8 years and never replaced the batteries? That is definitely not going to help during an outage . APC has this program where you can exchange older units for newer ones and then pay the difference. You may want to look into that.

Here is a great review on the Antec NeoPower 550W. The good stuff starts on page 3. I'd suggest reading all of it: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/361/1.

Cdpkook132, great looking setup! Cable management is very clean

Do you have a cpu-z validation link of your Clawhammer? Include that in a post and I can add you to the club roster.

Good luck guys
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Pio, you've had these APC units for 8 years and never replaced the batteries? That is definitely not going to help during an outage . APC has this program where you can exchange older units for newer ones and then pay the difference. You may want to look into that.

Here is a great review on the Antec NeoPower 550W. The good stuff starts on page 3. I'd suggest reading all of it: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/361/1.


Cdpkook132, great looking setup! Cable management is very clean

Do you have a cpu-z validation link of your Clawhammer? Include that in a post and I can add you to the club roster.

Good luck guys
Yeah, that's kinda why I'm going to replace them with a regular good ol' surge protector for now. I can't afford to replace them as UPS devices are quite expensive.

I read over that review. It claims that the NeoPower 550w can actually deliver up to 650w of power, and its between 83-88% efficient . That makes me VERY happy, and I am now confident in that PSU. It should handle my future SLI with ease. Now I just have to figure out a way to buy it.....as I have the money in my paypal, but not on a credit card for newegg .

I will of course report back as soon as I figure out what I'm doing .
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The brand / model of the UPS devices are both APC, and they are both at LEAST 8 years old. Batteries have NEVER been replaced, however they were perfectly fine before we moved here. I think having them sit on the cement floor in my parent's garage may have completely killed the batteries (like it does car batteries). So I'm just going to use a good surge protector from now on instead. I had 2 machines, with 2 UPS devices. And I also had 3 routers and a modem, a printer, and my speakers and accessories plugged into them as well.

I haven't purchased a PSU yet. However I am looking at this PSU. Its an Antec NeoPower 550w Modular PSU with 42a on the 12v rail. I can manage to get this PSU for a whopping $34.99 with free shipping because I get $10 off that item (it was $59.99 yesterday, and newegg honored it for me), and I also get $25 off my next order. I'm SERIOUSLY considering that PSU, unless I'm told otherwise.

As far as the Apevia....I have plans for it . It has HUGE capacitors in it. I wouldn't expect those 2 huge capacitors died, and I hope they didn't. I have a use for them. Did you know that capacitors, is all you need to make "bass blockers" for speakers? They need to be a specific rating, and handle enough power. I will look into that in a while. But if I recall correctly, the capacitors that are in PSU's can work perfect as a bass blocker (High Pass Crossover). And I plan to pull those capacitors out and use them for that function in the future (car or home, haven't decided yet).

But after that, the Apevia is DEFINITELY being thrown away . I'll salvage what parts out of it that I can (the fans and fan controller)....then junk it.

What was teh power rating on the UPS? I cant remember exactly but when I was setting some of them up at my old job I read the manual () theres a ratio you need, I believe the UPS needs to be 1.5x the amount of power that your machine draws. So for my needs Id actually need something along the lines of 1125w for 1 rig.
And that is WAY too many items to be plugged into it anyway. Unless 1 set of outlets was just surge protected and the other was the actual UPS portion as Ive seen on some.
I'd go to the UPS manufacturers website and see what they about power requirements.
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What was teh power rating on the UPS? I cant remember exactly but when I was setting some of them up at my old job I read the manual () theres a ratio you need, I believe the UPS needs to be 1.5x the amount of power that your machine draws. So for my needs Id actually need something along the lines of 1125w for 1 rig.
And that is WAY too many items to be plugged into it anyway. Unless 1 set of outlets was just surge protected and the other was the actual UPS portion as Ive seen on some.
I'd go to the UPS manufacturers website and see what they about power requirements.
I don't know for sure about the power ratings. But yes, one side (3 plugs) is for battery backup, and the other side (3 plugs) is for surge protection only.

Also, I am on two different UPS devices (both roughly same age). And well, I just don't care for them anymore as they don't function at all. I think the cement floor in the garage is what killed them (like it does to car batteries). I never thought about it before.
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Yeah, that's kinda why I'm going to replace them with a regular good ol' surge protector for now. I can't afford to replace them as UPS devices are quite expensive.
I replaced my 8 - $50 batteries with 4 car batteries. That's what I would do If I were you. IIRC APC uses 14v get a good motorcycle battery and you should be good.
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What was teh power rating on the UPS? I cant remember exactly but when I was setting some of them up at my old job I read the manual () theres a ratio you need, I believe the UPS needs to be 1.5x the amount of power that your machine draws. So for my needs Id actually need something along the lines of 1125w for 1 rig.
And that is WAY too many items to be plugged into it anyway. Unless 1 set of outlets was just surge protected and the other was the actual UPS portion as Ive seen on some.
I'd go to the UPS manufacturers website and see what they about power requirements.
Omega, that is an awful lot of power. I did some testing at work with a Ultra 1000VA UPS. Price tag was roughly in the $100 range. With (2) computers and (2) 17" I-Inc LCD's connected to the battery backup port, the UPS stayed on for 36 minutes and 31 secs (21% load). With the computers being at full load, the UPS stayed on for about 16 minutes and this was between 36 - 40% load on the UPS device. Granted the machine wasn't set up like ours (P4 1.8Ghz, 256MB, 40GB) but still wasn't to bad. It makes sense to have one computer plugged into a lower VA UPS and not several. Some users wonder why their four computers, 3 LCD's, Stereo, pencil sharpener, two lights, fish tank pump ect didn't stay on during an outage....geee I wonder why.

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Also, I am on two different UPS devices (both roughly same age). And well, I just don't care for them anymore as they don't function at all. I think the cement floor in the garage is what killed them (like it does to car batteries). I never thought about it before.
Pio, perhaps moisture might of gotten to them and caused some damaged. The age of the devices doesn't help as well.

Good luck
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