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It's going to be a server. I want it to run cool and quiet in my room 24/7. I've got an Intel server currently, but it's not near powerful enough to do what I want. I don't want to fiddle with OCing with it being a server, either.
I know you don't want to overclock it, but a lot of times, that would be easier (and cheaper), and just as cool. Take my Opteron for example. She hits 2.4GHz (600MHz boost over stock 1.8), and it only takes 1.00v to get her there. 2.8GHz takes 1.225v. Its all about how lucky your CPU is really...but getting a cheaper chip and overclocking / undervolting (if possible) would take my vote anyday.
 
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Here's a question for those with experience with server machines: Does it really matter how fast the processor runs? What advantage is there for a pure server machine if it ran a faster CPU?

For sure you want it to be as close to perfectly stable as possible; but what impact (if any) does a faster CPU have on a server?

Also, what other ways are there to boost server machine performance?
    
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Here's a question for those with experience with server machines: Does it really matter how fast the processor runs? What advantage is there for a pure server machine if it ran a faster CPU?

For sure you want it to be as close to perfectly stable as possible; but what impact (if any) does a faster CPU have on a server?

Also, what other ways are there to boost server machine performance?
If you are referring to file servers:

The only difference a faster CPU gives, is if you have a lot of traffic on the network. There are a few things that will increase a server's speed, that don't necessarily have anything to do with CPU clock:

Faster network (gigabit, with CAT5E or better cabling)
More RAM (I recommend AT LEAST 2GB, more if you have a lot of "client" rigs)
Faster Hard drives or a RAID setup

Honestly, CPU speed really doesn't effect a whole lot on file servers. It'll obviously help more than it'll hurt, but the difference is very VERY little if any. My personal file server for example is a dual Pentium 3 setup @ 1.13GHz (stock of 1.0GHz). I have roughly 5 machines in total (usually, when they're not ALL DEAD!!). So that's plenty for my setup.
 
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Thanks for the thoughts, pio. These jive with my own inexperienced opinions, actually.

On my machine (based on a S939 Tyan K8E SLI - yep, an SLI-capable server board! Not that I'm running SLI on it...), the only new parts (aside from the motherboard) are the hard drives. All the rest are spares. I don't have all the data uploaded onto it, but at least it's got the OS installed.

I'm so lazy when it comes to working on that machine... it's been many months in the making.
    
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Thanks for the thoughts, pio. These jive with my own inexperienced opinions, actually.

On my machine (based on a S939 Tyan K8E SLI - yep, an SLI-capable server board! Not that I'm running SLI on it...), the only new parts (aside from the motherboard) are the hard drives. All the rest are spares. I don't have all the data uploaded onto it, but at least it's got the OS installed.

I'm so lazy when it comes to working on that machine... it's been many months in the making.
My server machine is getting the same treatment actually . I've got:

Tyan S2466 Dual Socket A Motherboard
Dual Athlon MP 2200+ @ 1.8GHz
1GB ECC / Registered RAM (2x512MB) (need more )
And the hard drives from my old server
Rosewill 4port SATA RAID card

I still need massive hard drives, more RAM, and a video card to complete it .

I only decided to upgrade because this entire rig cost $50 used from OCN. Whereas the RAID card that I needed (which came WITH the rig) was $30 at newegg. The choice was obvious for me
 
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My only issue is that my new rig is not going to be a fileserver. This rig is going to be a gameserver, which needs a fast processor, fast RAM, and a fast net connection. I have a file server (see link in sig) and it's perfectly spec'd for what it is (although it's moving cases soon, to accommodate more HD's).

But yeah, on the gameserver, I want the ability to run it at a high stock speed, and if necessary, will OC it even higher.
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Look again, bright-eyes! He's got a face-mask on!
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My only issue is that my new rig is not going to be a fileserver. This rig is going to be a gameserver, which needs a fast processor, fast RAM, and a fast net connection. I have a file server (see link in sig) and it's perfectly spec'd for what it is (although it's moving cases soon, to accommodate more HD's).

But yeah, on the gameserver, I want the ability to run it at a high stock speed, and if necessary, will OC it even higher.
Xyro, what game are you going to be hosting? Game servers aren't always entirely dependent on the CPU. Drive speed is important because the loading of the maps ect. Once everything is loaded into memory then CPU hardly has to work. If you're running any mods then yes that will take more CPU because more processing is required to complete the game events. Obviously connection type is the most important(inbound traffic). Are you hosting this at your home?

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