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HothBase, have you tested with a command rate of 2T? I have feeling these are Hynix D43's which are very difficult to overclock. Try a tRP of 3 as well and see if that helps.

Good luck

tRP 3 together with the 1T command rate actually made it worse.
DDR458 @ 2.5-3-3-6-2T is 5h gaming stable though, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. I lost 2200 MB/s Write Bandwidth and gained 5 ns Latency compared to DDR440 @ 2.5-3-2-6-1T. Read Bandwidth seems to have been unaffected though, I'm getting 6876 MB/s.
Pretty sure that these are Infineon BE-5 ICs.

Maybe if i got another pair of sticks... then I would have no other choice but to use the 2T anyway... Would take me two months before I had the cash to spend... but what do you guys say? 2GB vs. 4GB, any noticeable difference in games? Been thinking of reinstalling that old Vista if I do decide to buy more.

And just to confirm what has already been said, yes. My avatar is from VGC, been reading those comics for a couple of years now.
 
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Hey I just got back from cashing a lotto ticket downtown, won 500 dollars from a scratch off, can't complain but would it be worth it to get a 939X2 or Opteron x2 or just go AM2?
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Hey I just got back from cashing a lotto ticket downtown, won 500 dollars from a scratch off, can't complain but would it be worth it to get a 939X2 or Opteron x2 or just go AM2?
As long as you don't spend it all.
If you want to hear what I think, I wouldn't pay more than $130 tops for an X2 or ~$190 for an Opty(depends on which model, really), but that's just me.
 
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tRP 3 together with the 1T command rate actually made it worse.
DDR458 @ 2.5-3-3-6-2T is 5h gaming stable though, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. I lost 2200 MB/s Write Bandwidth and gained 5 ns Latency compared to DDR440 @ 2.5-3-2-6-1T. Read Bandwidth seems to have been unaffected though, I'm getting 6876 MB/s.
HothBase, well what is more important...a stable PC or higher write bandwidth? I don't see the point of having higher write bandwidth if you can't get your machine stable. When things were stable, did you notice a performance difference between the two when playing a game?

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Hey I just got back from cashing a lotto ticket downtown, won 500 dollars from a scratch off, can't complain but would it be worth it to get a 939X2 or Opteron x2 or just go AM2?
TheSandman, good question. Is $500 your budget for new parts? If you can find a S939 X2 processor for cheap then I would jump on that. It would be cheaper then upgrading to a whole new platform (ie. DDR2 memory, AM2 board, processor). All though AM2 parts aren't that bad in terms of price. If it were me, I'd pick up a new video card.

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HothBase, well what is more important...a stable PC or higher write bandwidth? I don't see the point of having higher write bandwidth if you can't get your machine stable. When things were stable, did you notice a performance difference between the two when playing a game?
DDR440 was actually stable as far as I know, it needs a bit more testing though. DDR450 was the unstable speed.
I can't say that I notice any real difference in game.
 
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Hey I just got back from cashing a lotto ticket downtown, won 500 dollars from a scratch off, can't complain but would it be worth it to get a 939X2 or Opteron x2 or just go AM2?
TheSandman, I think it depends on how much of the $500.00 you want to spend. I mean, if you will use all of the money on computer parts, I personally would investigate the possibility of going with an AM2 build. The CPUs are getting cheaper all the time, as well as the motherboards. DDR2 is cheap, too. This move is also all the more advisable if you have bought a retail OS (i.e., one you can legally transfer from one machine to another).

Staying with S939 would not be as big an outlay, obviously, but you get poorer value, because dual-core S939 CPUs command a rather high price even in the used parts market (and they're nearly impossible to find retail). But consider this: You can get upgrades in both a dual-core CPU and a higher-spec video card by not paying additionally for everything else (motherboard, CPU, RAM, OS, etc.).

I hope these ideas help you make a sound decision.
    
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HothBase, well what is more important...a stable PC or higher write bandwidth? I don't see the point of having higher write bandwidth if you can't get your machine stable. When things were stable, did you notice a performance difference between the two when playing a game?



TheSandman, good question. Is $500 your budget for new parts? If you can find a S939 X2 processor for cheap then I would jump on that. It would be cheaper then upgrading to a whole new platform (ie. DDR2 memory, AM2 board, processor). All though AM2 parts aren't that bad in terms of price. If it were me, I'd pick up a new video card.

Good luck guys
If you're going to use it all, then go to AM2+. You could just start out by getting the CPU, Motherboard, and RAM and that wouldn't even be $400. You could get a nice Phenom II 940 for $235, a good AM2+ motherboard for $100 and then 4 gigs of RAM for $50-70. Then the other $100 could be used for a better card, or a newer OS lol.
 
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If you're going to use it all, then go to AM2+. You could just start out by getting the CPU, Motherboard, and RAM and that wouldn't even be $400. You could get a nice Phenom II 940 for $235, a good AM2+ motherboard for $100 and then 4 gigs of RAM for $50-70. Then the other $100 could be used for a better card, or a newer OS lol.
Pez, this is very true. Well put

I put together a budget AM2 system for someone on here a while back using Newegg.com and it came out to be in the low $200's.

Sandman, you can also save more money if you carried over your X1600Pro to your new build. That would actually be a great idea for the time being.

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TheSandman: A new CPU would set you back about $150. This leaves $350 for a GPU, which is a GTX 260 or an HD 4850x2. If you want to swap platforms, you need a CPU, a mobo, and RAM. The motherboard is at most $160. The RAM is as cheap as $40. The CPU is $80 for a top-of-the-line dual core, $240 for a top-of-the-line Deneb. (Top-of-the-line Agena is $150. Newegg currently has a sale for a 790GX mobo and 9850 BE for $225. (I would advise you pass on the 790GX though because of the 8.0x PCI-E 2.0 slots.) At $440 (assuming the worst case scenario), you can get an Agena, 4 GB of DDR2-800, and still have a little room for a used HD 3850.

Personally, I would get the dual-core 939 and a massive GPU. Jump into AM3 with your massive GPU when prices come down.
     
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Sorry for double, but I think this is important:

Check out the price on this HD 4850x2! It is so low, that Newegg cannot show it. With that cost, you can afford to not only get a dual-core, but also another 2 GB of RAM.
     
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Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty C... Denon AVR-1910 Polk Audio Monitor 40 Polk Audio Monitor 30 
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Microsoft Strategic Commander UPEK Eikon Digital Privacy Manager Logitech G27 Playseat Revolution (NASCAR) 
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