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That's funny, my battery reads 3.06v, and I don't have a single issue.
A voltmeter is the only real accurate and for sure way to test the battery to know for sure if it's bad.
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A voltmeter is the only real accurate and for sure way to test the battery to know for sure if it's bad.
Very true, but I believe we were discussing Everest readings . I could care less about a multimeter, if my rig works fine, then why do I care what voltages it THINKS it has?

I believe the vBATT is more or less going to drop with power supply voltage drops. I believe that's why mine reads so low, because I have a poor PSU.
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Very true, but I believe we were discussing Everest readings . I could care less about a multimeter, if my rig works fine, then why do I care what voltages it THINKS it has?

I believe the vBATT is more or less going to drop with power supply voltage drops. I believe that's why mine reads so low, because I have a poor PSU.
the reasons listed below is why I mentioned volt meter.

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Hey guys, I've been messing around with my spare rig in my sig, and I'm having an unusual problem. I've over clocked the 165 to 225*9 = 2.025 ghz as a starting point. It shows up in the bios but as soon as I go to check it with software my fsb bump shows as stock in both cpu-z and everest. Things like the multi and voltage show up when changed. Any ideas as to what the issue could be?
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tofunater, are you sure you're hitting "F10" to save the changes in the BIOS when you're done with your settings tweaks? I know sometimes I forget to do that.
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Cool and quiet is disabled. I wondered if i'd forgotten as well to save, but my voltage changes are evident. And when I go back into the bios, everything is exactly the way I set it, and the post screen shows the proper clock speed.
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tofunater, how old is the CMOS battery? It could be that the battery is starting to die, so the settings are not being saved on the BIOS chip.
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Sorry for the double post guys but no one has posted for a while and I thought that I could share this with everyone. I found this post by txtmstrjoe and learned something by it and figured a couple of people here might be interested in learning it as well. Plus I wanted to Rep+ joe on a great lesson but he's no longer accepting reputation becuase he has graduated to a higher class of ONC membership. Congradulations on that BTW txtmstrjoe.
Edited by N2Gaming - 2/2/09 at 11:32pm
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I fail to see how a single-core could be economically viable anymore.
Blitz, there are many business's/corporations that still run single-core desktop machines. It's very cheap especially if you're expanding and doing a build out for 100-300 users. Out of the 8,000 employees that are employed at my job, probably only a few hundred actually have dual core machines, this includes laptops for those that "supposedly" need vpn access. My machine at work has a single-core processor and it's great.

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Anything lower than 3.2 V and it would be a good idea to replace it.
Actually a CR2032 battery is rated at 3.0volts

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Very true, but I believe we were discussing Everest readings . I could care less about a multimeter, if my rig works fine, then why do I care what voltages it THINKS it has?

I believe the vBATT is more or less going to drop with power supply voltage drops. I believe that's why mine reads so low, because I have a poor PSU.
Pio, in terms of troubleshooting a multimeter is an excellent tool. Voltages are very important when it comes to pretty much everything within a computer. If your PSU has a slightly low 12volt rail then it may not be a huge issue now but it could eventually lead to PSU failure and possibly a larger problem later on.

I'm pretty positive the voltage on the CMOS battery is not directly influenced or affected by the power supply. The cmos battery is it's own power source. It shouldn't compensate for anything.

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Is it just me, or did OCN change colors for Moderators and Editors? Moderators seem more yellow than they were, Editors more green.

Thlnk3r: I am aware that a CR2032 is 3.0 V. However, every single motherboard I have checked with (nForce3, Crossfire Xpress3200, 790FX) show it as 3.30 V in Everest when new. It is possible that Everest just reads it off by 300 mV. It could be perhaps that when the computer is in use, the battery voltage is effected by the system power requirements. That is, when in use, the computer putting some extra voltage through the battery to bring it up to the more-standard 3.30 V line. An aging battery then might be 2.70 V, but show up in Everest as 3.0 V. Or I could just be on something.
     
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Thlnk3r: I am aware that a CR2032 is 3.0 V. However, every single motherboard I have checked with (nForce3, Crossfire Xpress3200, 790FX) show it as 3.30 V in Everest when new. It is possible that Everest just reads it off by 300 mV. It could be perhaps that when the computer is in use, the battery voltage is effected by the system power requirements. That is, when in use, the computer putting some extra voltage through the battery to bring it up to the more-standard 3.30 V line. An aging battery then might be 2.70 V, but show up in Everest as 3.0 V. Or I could just be on something.
Blitz, I don't think so. The CMOS battery is completely separate from everything else. If the board were to put extra voltage into the cmos battery then that would lead to overvoltage and that can be dangerous.

If you want to find out the voltage of anything you need to use a multimeter. It's a lot more accurate then software.

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On voltages: On PSUs, aren't there three + (positive) voltage readings that we look at? Namely, these are 12V, 5V, and 3.3V. So perhaps that's where our apparent confusion lies in our examination of the readings from Everest Ultimate. That 3.3V reading is not the CMOS battery reading.

I haven't looked at that tab in EU forever, so I might be off-base here.
    
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Here is my Everest Ultimate voltage panel.


     
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Joe, that's true there could be some confusion.

Blitz, thanks for posting the screen shot. Do you have a multimeter handy? It would be nice to see the difference between software monitoring and an actual hardware device. I can almost guarantee a multimeter will probably show slightly above 3 volts. The CMOS battery in my DFI shows 3.07 volts. Everest shows 3.10 volts. In any case, a CR2032 is rated at 3.0 volts regardless. Don't always trust software

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