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IE7. I'm thinking an OS reinstall is in store?
Before you try a re-install uninstall I.E. and run a reg cleaner like ccleaner and make sure you have run a complete virus scan. I think you will be happy with the results.

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DDR266 is so slow it's pointless, and may not even run.
I run 2 sticks of 266valueram on an asrock @333 2.5cas with no issues whatsoever. I don't even have to bump the volts. I haven't even tried to twead the timeings up as the loose settings run just fine.

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I cannot recommend the DDR 266. The IMC of the 939 K8s were never designed with that high of densities in mind. You may have just as many problems running 2x2 as you do now with 4x1 unmatched.
?? could you elaborate. I'm deciding what ram to use with my tyan and may have to get some new memory so this will come into play. I'll probally go multi boot with my new opty, win98se/nt2000pro/xp32pro/xp64pro/win7??/linux for folding??
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Before you try a re-install uninstall I.E. and run a reg cleaner like ccleaner and make sure you have run a complete virus scan. I think you will be happy with the results.


I run 2 sticks of 266valueram on an asrock @333 2.5cas with no issues whatsoever. I don't even have to bump the volts. I haven't even tried to twead the timeings up as the loose settings run just fine.


?? could you elaborate. I'm deciding what ram to use with my tyan and may have to get some new memory so this will come into play. I'll probally go multi boot with my new opty, win98se/nt2000pro/xp32pro/xp64pro/win7??/linux for folding??
Going to try this as I've never really ran I reg cleaner while on vista. Just when I had XP lol.
 
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When Skt 939s came out, the only way to get 2 GB DIMMs was by going ECC registered. Unbuffered/unregistered RAM of that density might give the memory controller some issue. Granted, since this is an Opteron we are discussing, it likely could do DDR-266 with ECC; not sure. Many times too the motherboard could be at issue. I know for example my Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 says the max density per DIMM is 1 GB. My AT8-32x said the max density per DIMM was 2 GB. You would need to look into the motherboard to confirm.

And it is not a chipset to chipset, it is a brand to brand. Look at my AM2+ motherboard exempli gratia. Mine is rated to do 2 GB maximum per slot. The DFI above it, bearing the identical chipsets, is rated to do 4 GB maximum per slot. It might be a trace issue, it might be a BIOS issue. I do not know.
     
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And it is not a chipset to chipset, it is a brand to brand. Look at my AM2+ motherboard exempli gratia. Mine is rated to do 2 GB maximum per slot. The DFI above it, bearing the identical chipsets, is rated to do 4 GB maximum per slot. It might be a trace issue, it might be a BIOS issue. I do not know.
I wonder if it has any thing to do with the power circuits that controll the memory on the board it self. I know The AMD has the ram controller built into it but I'm talking about the amound of power the mobo uses to keep the RAM charged. I think the more ram per stick requires more power to keep them charged. Correct or not???
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I was thinking it might be something along that line. That would mean though that the UT will be able to clock the same RAM higher than the DK due to the fact that the power supply to the RAM is better. You would think though, if that were the case, it is a simple matter of increasing the RAM voltage in the BIOS, which is why I thought it might be a BIOS issue more than anything else.
     
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Ran the reg cleaner. The only thing that's crashed in the last 2-4 hours was the windows sidebar...so here's to wishing for the best.
 
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OK so heres some comparisons. Rig1: DFI lanparty 3500+ @ 2.6ghz, 1 9600GSO stock clocks, 2gb corsair. CSS: 16:10 Everything maxed 16xAA/AF :129.05 FPS, Crysis:16:10 no AA everything set to high 15.86fps (and you guys know I can get 25fps), 3dm03- 19608, 3dmark06-4988. With my opty 180 + 1 GSO its right around 9500. In SLI its closer to 11k
Rig 2: Asus A8n32SLIdeluxe, opty 165 @ 2,3ghz, 4870 1gb (btw this is the OC'd XXX version), 2gb hyperx. CSS:16:10 everything max 8xMSAA, 16xAF-137.13fps. Crysis: 16:10 everything set to high 16xQAA - 26.20 fps. And the difference between AA and no AA using the crysis benchmark was a 1-2 fps increase. 3Dm03-18497, 3dm06-9021.
BlackOmega, those results do look a little odd. With my 4850 I was getting a little over 10.9k in 3DMark06. This was with driver version 8.7. For testing purposes have you tried an older version of the display driver? I'm not sure how well the 9.1's are. Do both slots on the A8N32 run at 16x in single video card mode?

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I know for example my Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 says the max density per DIMM is 1 GB.
Blitz, I didn't know the K8NSC was compatible with ECC memory. I found that out last night when I installed some 1024 DDR333 ECC sticks. Boot's up great

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Regards the 9.1s: They are good drivers. I gain about a 5% performance boost compared to 8.12. A score of 9021 does sound about right given the fact that it is running at 2.3 GHz.
     
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I was thinking it might be something along that line. That would mean though that the UT will be able to clock the same RAM higher than the DK due to the fact that the power supply to the RAM is better. You would think though, if that were the case, it is a simple matter of increasing the RAM voltage in the BIOS, which is why I thought it might be a BIOS issue more than anything else.
Actually probably not, If you increase the Voltage it will not effect the voltage drop from a higher load. But adding capacitors will.

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Ran the reg cleaner. The only thing that's crashed in the last 2-4 hours was the windows sidebar...so here's to wishing for the best.
I would still remove I.E. and then run the cleaner.
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Well I am shocked and amazed. How can a $275 video card with more ram and a higher bit interface do WORSE than a $65 card with less ram and a lower bit interface. It just doesnt make any sense to me. I cant believe how badly this thing does. My score in 3dm06 is lower than 1 of my GSO's, same with 3dm03. I cant believe that its bottlenecking that badly. I mean if my GSO's does better, and if this card was bottlenecked that bad I'd imagine that it would do just as well considering how much more power this thing supposedly has.
I think Im going to bust out my opty 180, run it @ 3.0 and see how it does. But somehow I dont think it'll be all that great.
Man, I am seriously disappointed
sounds like drivers to me...

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I have a pair of these that I could let go for my cost.


Can those keep up with my HZs? I need some more memory .
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