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I don't think my rig is faster overall than many other people's rigs here. If anything, I'm one of the more conservative types here.

I mean, seriously. Can the HD 4870 really outrun even an SLIed G92 setup?

I honestly hate benchmarking; it's painfully boring to me, and I think it's rather pointless. ePeen-wagging just isn't something that's particularly interesting to me.
txtmstrjoe, I was refering to your awesome mobo, ram, 750w psu, 2x 500 gig WD I asume in raid 0 for speed, in regards to your vid card well I don't know any thing about ATI. I try to stick to one brand. The one that has never let me down. "Nvidia"



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N2Gaming, what are the issues/symptoms that are preventing this?

Good luck
Thanks for the luck. I can't play in win 7 x64 becuase it locks the mouse and I can't play in xp x64 becuase it won't finish loading for some dumb reason. I have yet to reformat reload win 7 32 bit for another go at it, it's just time consuming and tedious work that I prefer to avoid.
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Thanks for the luck. I can't play in win 7 x64 becuase it locks the mouse and I can't play in xp x64 becuase it won't finish loading for some dumb reason. I have yet to reformat reload win 7 32 bit for another go at it, it's just time consuming and tedious work that I prefer to avoid.
N2Gaming, is quake live supported under a 64-bit OS? Sounds like you're experiencing some compatibility issues.

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N2Gaming, is quake live supported under a 64-bit OS? Sounds like you're experiencing some compatibility issues.

Good luck
Being the newb that I am and all I don't know the answer about 64 bit compatablility nor have I spent a lot of time reading up on it. I just figured some one would knock on my front door and say Hi you don't know me but I'm here to help you with your quakelive problems. Jk

seriously I am testing beta stuff when I don't know as much as I should for doing so.
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Crysis is the weird one, if I turn AA/AF off the difference in framerate is usually less than 1 frame per second.
As for 3d06, Ive noticed its not only the cpu scores that go up but also the sm2.0/3.0 scores. Therefore leading me to believe that, as much as I hate to admit it, the CPU is bottlenecking.
I run 3d03 to see actual graphic card performance increase, which yet again showed me that the CPU is bottlenecking the card pretty badly, because the only difference was the CPU speed, the more I raise it the higher the score goes.
Just for kicks and giggles, download 3Dmark03, run it at stock clocks. Then run it OC'd, Im curious how much your score will change.




Theres part of your problem.



Theres the other. For 1 custom maps, for the most part, are textured REALLY badly. There are always going to be areas where, for no reason whatsoever, your FPS will drop like a rock. I was playing on a custom map when I looked at an area on a particular wall and in 1 spot and 1 spot only my fps would drop below 30. Anywhere else on the same wall I was getting 150+. 2 when spectating there's an inherent lag and bandwidth issue, as the server receives the info from 1 client then processes it then sends it to you. Which will sometimes make it appear choppy even at high frame rates.



Lol so sorry Hue. I type 57 words per minute and sometimes letters get misplaced. Well, honestly, a lot of the time letters get misplaced. Ill make sure theres no more "teh"


Well I defintely wouldnt be going i7. Its just too expensive and from what Ive been reading, theyre really not that great overclockers. Seems like the intel fanboys are having lots of stability issues with them.
And as for the PII 940 rig, since all I really need is a board/CPU/RAM it really wouldnt be that expensive. And they seem to overclock nicely. So Im seriously considering selling off some of my 939 stuff. Ill definitely keep at least one rig. Which one is yet to be determined.


At any rate if any of you guys might be interested in any of my 939 stuff PM me.
It does it even on a map like de_dust 2. And it's besides the point. I play custom maps 99% of the time I'm playing CSS, and CSS is the game I play 95% of the time I'm playing a game...so..yeah.

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I wonder why I don't ever report any problems playing games at 1680 x 1050? Some of you have faster CPUs, or overclocked cards, or maybe even multi-GPUs, but are having tons more problems with your games.

I put the disc in, run the executable, and never ever worry about framerates. I just play the game and enjoy it...
Joe, so what games do you play? I'm curious at least to the settings you use? I'm pretty sure most every game maxes out on it right? With the exception of crysis duh. Not to mention the HD 4870 is a dead sexy card. I'm just complaining about frames b/c the gameplay isn't always as smooth as is expected. Also N2, the thing is, when I upgrade, I wanna go the AM3 route and AMD is not that great at making good OC'ing SLI boards anymore. Therefore, the HD 4870 would be a great single card solution. Not to mention it'd take up much less power, space, and would allow me to lower my vcore again .
 
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. Also N2, the thing is, when I upgrade, I wanna go the AM3 route and AMD is not that great at making good OC'ing SLI boards anymore. .
I have been wondering about that one my self. I bet nvidia is working on an am3 chipset that will bring true 16x16x back to the table for sli. Prolly being as ATI and AMD are one in the same then maybe Nvidia is getting the short end of the stick on the cpu's for testing when and if they develope and make newer chipsets. Heck there is not a lot of am2+ boards that do x16x16 ATM.
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No way in heck.


EDIT: See: This link.

It seems like in most games (exception being Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, which is heavily ATi favorable) the 8800 GTs dominate over an HD 4870.
My point exactly.

So why am I not having any problems with my setup that many of you seem to be having with more powerful equipment at your disposal?

EDIT: For pez's benefit mainly, since he asked: What games do I play?

I've got a lot of games on my list, any one of which I'll play with when I have time or when I just have that itch to scratch.

Here's a short list of my regulars:
  • Madden NFL 08
  • rFactor
  • F1 Challenge
  • GTR Evolution
  • Race07
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
  • Battlefield 2
  • Half Life 2
  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

When I feel more in the mood for a shooter, I go:
  • Call of Duty 4
  • Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
  • Doom 3
  • Half Life 2: Lost Coast
  • F.E.A.R. (and its sequels, the names of which I don't remember at the moment)

Plus a whole gamut of other titles that I've only just dabbled in and not really concentrated on at the moment since I don't have much time to game.

I seldom play shooters, though; I mainly play my football and racing games. Nevertheless, I play at 1680 x 1050, with max details (except for GTR Evo, which has stuttering problems; I dial down the AA to 8x and AF to 2x. The game is still magnificently beautiful at those settings, though).

Maybe my standards are far lower than most people's, but I can say in all honesty that I have no problems apart from GTR Evo. In that game's case, I would say it's likely to be more a software issue (driver optimizations) than something in the hardware. All it takes to solve the stuttering problem, as noted, is to dial down the eye candy by a little bit; the visual quality doesn't deteriorate much, if at all, either.
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My point exactly.

So why am I not having any problems with my setup that many of you seem to be having with more powerful equipment at your disposal?
My games run fine on my rig. Crysis/City of Heroes/COD4 very playable and pretty. I only use a 1280x1024 res, but that's plenty for me.
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I have been wondering about that one my self. I bet nvidia is working on an am3 chipset that will bring true 16x16x back to the table for sli. Prolly being as ATI and AMD are one in the same then maybe Nvidia is getting the short end of the stick on the cpu's for testing when and if they develope and make newer chipsets. Heck there is not a lot of am2+ boards that do x16x16 ATM.
Yeah, but even those don't have the greatest favor when it comes to overclocking .

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My point exactly.

So why am I not having any problems with my setup that many of you seem to be having with more powerful equipment at your disposal?

EDIT: For pez's benefit mainly, since he asked: What games do I play?

I've got a lot of games on my list, any one of which I'll play with when I have time or when I just have that itch to scratch.

Here's a short list of my regulars:
  • Madden NFL 08
  • rFactor
  • F1 Challenge
  • GTR Evolution
  • Race07
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
  • Battlefield 2
  • Half Life 2
  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

When I feel more in the mood for a shooter, I go:
  • Call of Duty 4
  • Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
  • Doom 3
  • Half Life 2: Lost Coast
  • F.E.A.R. (and its sequels, the names of which I don't remember at the moment)

Plus a whole gamut of other titles that I've only just dabbled in and not really concentrated on at the moment since I don't have much time to game.

I seldom play shooters, though; I mainly play my football and racing games. Nevertheless, I play at 1680 x 1050, with max details (except for GTR Evo, which has stuttering problems; I dial down the AA to 8x and AF to 2x. The game is still magnificently beautiful at those settings, though).

Maybe my standards are far lower than most people's, but I can say in all honesty that I have no problems apart from GTR Evo. In that game's case, I would say it's likely to be more a software issue (driver optimizations) than something in the hardware. All it takes to solve the stuttering problem, as noted, is to dial down the eye candy by a little bit; the visual quality doesn't deteriorate much, if at all, either.
Thank you for this joe. It helps a great deal. If I get a PM tonight, I think i'll take it.

I'm so indecisive, so it's time to play some games. Joe, I know you don't pay attention to framerates, but could you take a look on CoD4 MP and tell me an avg minimum of what you get?
 
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I'm so indecisive, so it's time to play some games. Joe, I know you don't pay attention to framerates, but could you take a look on CoD4 MP and tell me an avg minimum of what you get?
pez, next time I fire up CoD4 and if pio and/or Blitz are online, I'll go MP and let you know what the numbers are.
    
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could you take a look on CoD4 MP and tell me an avg minimum of what you get?
Pez, with my setup at 1440x900 I was getting an average between 50-90FPS. My brother on his X800XT with a 3600+ X2 (stock) at 1680x1050 gets about the same.

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