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On a side note I have an oportunity to get a amd 939 a64 4000+ for $40.00 & 3200+ for $30.00 I can prolly talk him down since he has been trying to sell them for a while.
N2Gaming, I would negotiate the prices. I purchased a 3200+ on OCN for $12 shipped so just FYI

Good luck

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It makes a de minimis improvement on image quality. It also has a minor impact on framerates. If you can turn it up, do so. If not, do not be afraid to lose it.
Blitz, I second that. I hardly noticed a difference other then my frames dropping.
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If you were looking at a static image, or a low-intensity game like Flight Simulator, I would say you would notice it. But with CoD4, Crysis, et cetera, you are moving so fast that you hardly notice the effect. As Wikipedia puts it:

"In 3D computer graphics, anisotropic filtering (abbreviated AF) is a method of enhancing the image quality of textures on surfaces that are at oblique viewing angles with respect to the camera where the projection of the texture (not the polygon or other primitive on which it is rendered) appears to be non-orthogonal."

The image on that page well illustrates the point.
     
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Originally Posted by blitz6804 View Post
If you were looking at a static image, or a low-intensity game like Flight Simulator, I would say you would notice it. But with CoD4, Crysis, et cetera, you are moving so fast that you hardly notice the effect. As Wikipedia puts it:

"In 3D computer graphics, anisotropic filtering (abbreviated AF) is a method of enhancing the image quality of textures on surfaces that are at oblique viewing angles with respect to the camera where the projection of the texture (not the polygon or other primitive on which it is rendered) appears to be non-orthogonal."

The image on that page well illustrates the point.
Blitz, thanks for the explanation. That explains why AF didn't offer anything when playing TF2. At times AF would even cause slight pauses during game play.

In any case thanks for that Blitz!

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If you were looking at a static image, or a low-intensity game like Flight Simulator, I would say you would notice it. But with CoD4, Crysis, et cetera, you are moving so fast that you hardly notice the effect. As Wikipedia puts it:

"In 3D computer graphics, anisotropic filtering (abbreviated AF) is a method of enhancing the image quality of textures on surfaces that are at oblique viewing angles with respect to the camera where the projection of the texture (not the polygon or other primitive on which it is rendered) appears to be non-orthogonal."

The image on that page well illustrates the point.
Looks as if it gives better distance viewing from the pictures displayed left vs right. I just maxed everything out w/res @ 1280 x 1024 I'll report the playability in a few min.
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with all the talk of upcoming phenom IIs, I'm kind of curious about the current phenoms.
What is the difference between these three?
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Is anyone running their mobo w/ the southbridge fan off (usually a 40mm fan) and just the heatsink? I wanna try and see how my computer runs w/ it off (b/c it's REALLY LOUD) and is about 70%+ of myy systems noise. It has a nice little heatsink under it...like the ones you see on motherboards nowadays. I don't have my the nb/sb voltage any higher than stock, so could I try it, or would I run high risk of causing permanent damage?
 
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with all the talk of upcoming phenom IIs, I'm kind of curious about the current phenoms.
What is the difference between these three?
9600B I'm pretty sure means black edition (unlocked multi) and I read that the x3's and x4's that ended in 00 instead of 50's were horrible OCer's and also were known for another problem which I don't know off the top of my head ATM.
 
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I have done some testing regards AA and AF. Attached you will find a ZIP containing 9 files.

These files are:
0x AA
2x AA
4x AA
6x AA
8x AA
16x AA
32x AA (all 16x AF)

and:
0x AF
16x AF (all 4x AA)

You can see with AF, the effect is negligible on both FPS and visual presentation.

On the AA, anything past 4x is no longer perceivable by my eye. Anything past 6x starts to hurt FPS. Different cards are different, but 48xx cards are said to have "free FPS" as we can see with 0x, 2x, 4x, and 6x all having the same FPS within a percent or so.
     
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heck I'm still stuck on trying to see my fps from console.

I typed in the stuff and hit enter then the tildy key again and I don't know what I'm doing.

On a lighter note my Replacement PSU from thermal take just got here a day early. Yay. It's brand New in the box with the plastic wrap still on it.
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