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Originally Posted by blitz6804 View Post
The waviness is normal.
Blitz, all though it may be normal from the factory I consider that a poor finish. What is your opinion? I can't stand the waves/ripples (or whatever you prefer to call them).

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If not for the concavity of my SI-128, I would not have lapped it. The small ripples on all Thermalright products, believe it or not, are intentionally put there by Thermalright. If I remember right, they claim it facilitates heat transfer. I am not so sure. I will know however that it should prevent the vacuum effect that has been known to happen if you put TIM between two perfectly lapped surfaces. The heat transfer will barely be impaired (if at all) given that you use TIM anyway. With the ridges on mine could not be felt by a finger, but if you ran a finger nail over it, you could hear clicking. The TIM would squeeze out of the minute troughs causing a uniform surface, so any effect should be negligible.
     
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Hi Everyone,

I’m new to your site and I have been reading through a lot of this thread to try to get more information on overclocking my Opteron 185. I have had it up to 3 GHz (231 x 13, 1.58v) but it is not stable, boots into windows and runs Orthos for less then 10 minutes. I have it at 2.912 GHz (224 x 13, 1.48v) right now and it is very stable, but hotter then I like, not sure I can keep it here when summer comes. The place I normally have it is 2.808 GHz (234 x 12, 1.38v) and this seems to be the sweet spot for year round operation. I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum with 2 Gig of ram, ram will not clock higher then 235 MHz, plus I have a cold boot problem beyond 237 MHz (that really sucks). I have the Tuniq Tower 120 as my CPU cooler and it seems to do ok, but not as good as I thought it would do. I really would like to get it up to 3 GHz stable, but it seems to need a lot of core voltage which of course causes a lot of heat. What if I ran my 185 naked? Is this a good idea? I really do not want to harm it, I’m not ready to build a new machine yet.

The stepping of my CPU is CCBBE 0615 DPMW. Is this a good stepping?
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Hi Everyone,

I’m new to your site and I have been reading through a lot of this thread to try to get more information on overclocking my Opteron 185. I have had it up to 3 GHz (231 x 13, 1.58v) but it is not stable, boots into windows and runs Orthos for less then 10 minutes. I have it at 2.912 GHz (224 x 13, 1.48v) right now and it is very stable, but hotter then I like, not sure I can keep it here when summer comes. The place I normally have it is 2.808 GHz (234 x 12, 1.38v) and this seems to be the sweet spot for year round operation. I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum with 2 Gig of ram, ram will not clock higher then 235 MHz, plus I have a cold boot problem beyond 237 MHz (that really sucks). I have the Tuniq Tower 120 as my CPU cooler and it seems to do ok, but not as good as I thought it would do. I really would like to get it up to 3 GHz stable, but it seems to need a lot of core voltage which of course causes a lot of heat. What if I ran my 185 naked? Is this a good idea? I really do not want to harm it, I’m not ready to build a new machine yet.

The stepping of my CPU is CCBBE 0615 DPMW. Is this a good stepping?
Welcome to OCN and thanks for Visiting this club KnifesEdge.

Please do us all a favor and CLICK ON ME So you can fill in all of your system information as best possible. Make Model #'s and timings voltages etc will all be very usefull to the experts here when it comes to helping determine what you should be able to do with your overclock.

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What if I ran my 185 naked? Is this a good idea? I really do not want to harm it, I’m not ready to build a new machine yet.
If you choose to delid your opty you most definately run the risk of killing your cpu. However with a little patience it can be done w/o killing it. I did not see a bit enough difference for the risk involved when deliding my A64 3500+. I used it for practice in preporation for delidding my Opty 180 but was turned off by the whole process and mental stress involved.
Edited by N2Gaming - 2/26/09 at 5:01pm
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As N2Gaming has said, filling in your computer can help you help us help you all! </PORTAL>

When you tried to do 231x13, did you leave your RAM running 1:1, or did you decrease it to the DDR 333 divider?

As to steppings... let me through you the most-often quoted post ever:

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Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe View Post
With a DFI LanParty-series board, an Opteron 165 or 170 will do very well. These are all but impossible to find new these days, though, so expect to pay somewhat of a premium compared to maybe six months ago or so.

Good steppings: CCBBE; LCB9E; LCBQE. CCBBEs are from 2006; LCB*Es are from late 2006-mid 2007.

Note: Stepping recommendations are NOT a guarantee of a overclocking result. They merely indicate possible outcomes due to the law of averages being in your favor.

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N2Gaming and Blitz, I updated my system info as much as possible for now...I'm at work and do not have all my info.

Blitz, I try to always run my ram 1:1 at least as far as the ram will go, in this case about 235 MHz. I have tried using dividers and this just will not work with a motherboard that will not cold boot beyond HTT of 237. Was 250 before I got the Opteron 185. Is it possible for this to get worst with a different CPU? Sure seems to the reason to me.
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It certainly is. It is possible that when you have 237x13 (3081 MHz) you are simply trying to run the CPU too fast. The easiest way to test this is to decrease your multiplier, perhaps to 10 or 11. If it boots fine at 2370 MHz or 2607 MHz, the HTT is not the issue, but instead, the CPU going too fast.
     
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N2Gaming and Blitz, I updated my system info as much as possible for now...I'm at work and do not have all my info.

Blitz, I try to always run my ram 1:1 at least as far as the ram will go, in this case about 235 MHz. I have tried using dividers and this just will not work with a motherboard that will not cold boot beyond HTT of 237. Was 250 before I got the Opteron 185. Is it possible for this to get worst with a different CPU? Sure seems to the reason to me.
I think you need to send me the 185 for de-lidding. Ummm just don't be surprised if it comes back with a 9X multi! That happens sometimes!:Lachen::Lachen:

Ohhh and welcome! It looks like you have found the best spot on the net for 939 help!
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KnifesEdge: I think I misread the post. Different CPUs of different bins and steppings were cold bugged in different ways. When you mean "cold boot" you mean the CPU physically being too cold to boot or meaning the first one of the day?

Hueristic: He certainly has. My question is: why the keyboard today? You told us it is smilies only today. (Not that I mind; I like the keyboarded Hueristic better anyway; shows his wisdom better.)
     
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Blitz, all though it may be normal from the factory I consider that a poor finish. What is your opinion? I can't stand the waves/ripples (or whatever you prefer to call them).
Well it might be a poor finish but a lapping of the base would cost much more for the company = less profit. I'll try taking a pic with a razor to check flatness.

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I’m new to your site and I have been reading through a lot of this thread to try to get more information on overclocking my Opteron 185.
Welcome to the club KnifesEdge Nice to see another one with an opty 185 around here! I just bought one for myself!! LCBBE 0628BMPW, in a sealed box at very good price! If you are looking at particular steppings try searching this site. It has a pretty good database.

Got to catch some sleep now, it's 6:00 am in Greece right now. I had to stay awake to catch the bid on opty
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