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What is wrong with the speed in D5?
     
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What is wrong with the speed in D5?
When I try to divide columb A2 / C2 my ram speed does not come out correct.
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ARG! Typo... you should be dividing A5 by C5... modifying my post accordingly.
     
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ARG! Typo... you should be dividing A5 by C5... modifying my post accordingly.
Got it thanks

N2G

Edit: I was still not getting it for a minut but then I realized that you had to cut the columb D2 in half for the ddr spd to work correctly. I was trying to use it at stock w/AM2 14*200 DDR800 and was getting confused but I got it figured out when I realized your example shows how running the DDR400 ram @ half it's speed and then upping the FSB brings the ram back up somewhere close to where it should be. Thanks for explaining and correcting the typo.

This is cool

Rep + to you sir.
Edited by N2Gaming - 2/28/09 at 5:06pm
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You have a typo somewhere. The number you enter under "divider" is not cut in half.



Pioneerisloud's PC is running the DDR200 (200:100) divider. Thus, 200 in that column would be the correct number. Other programs would have you enter 100 MHz instead. This formula is not one of those.
     
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I understand Pio is running ddr200 but the overclock brings his ram back up close to ddr400. I did some AM2 equations and I liked the results. These formulas =

Thank you,

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It is interesting to note that since the lowest permissible divisor is 5, some CPUs are incapable of running their RAM at its native speed when running at stock. Fortunately for all here present, this does not happen in Socket 939. To render a computer incapable of running DDR 400 with a 200 MHz HTT you would have to have a multiplier of 4x or lower stock, which never happens.

The problem does however arise in the AM2 realm. The Athlon 64 3000+ Orleans (9x200) and the Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane (9.5x200) are both incapable of running DDR2-800 when they have a 200 MHz HTT. Other, faster processors with odd and/or non-integral multipliers would also be incapable of running DDR2-800 at stock, but decreasing the multiplier to the next even integer fixes this. (But this cannot help the 3000+ and 3600+ above, as 8x200 would yield DDR2-640.) A similar problem will happen with AM2+ CPUs and the DDR2-1066 divider and AM3 CPUs and the DDR3-1333 divider.
     
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Blitz:

You have my information wrong my friend. I am at 200/133, which gives me DDR430 or 215MHz.
 
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You USED to be at DDR 200. If I replace the 200 with 266, it shows your RAM speed as DDR 429.4. This is close enough to 430 for government work.
     
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Darn you pez... you broke the formula. I will let you all know I fixed it though, the formula should now read:

=IF(CEILING((A5/(((64000/(FLOOR(64000/(D2),1))/2)/200)*B2)),1)<5,5,CEILING((A5/(((64000/(FLOOR(64000/(D2),1))/2)/200)*B2)),1))

(Prior to the change, the 266 divider did not work properly.)


EDIT: Okay; that is ugly. I simplified thusly:

=IF(CEILING((FLOOR(64000/(D2),1)*A5)/(B2*160),1)<5,5,CEILING((FLOOR(64000/(D2),1)*A5)/(B2*160),1))

EDITx2: Uhm, yeah... in trying to fix 266, I broke 1333. The post above is modified again to fix. Changing a Round to a Floor fixed it.

EDITx3: You can make it simpler still by using the "max" function instead of the "if" function:

=MAX(5,CEILING((FLOOR(64000/(D2),1)*A5)/(B2*160),1))
     
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