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Originally Posted by pez View Post
Isn't that an Asus club though But yeah, this board has the 2oz copper trace thing you speak of. Sadly I haven't looked too much into it, but I picked out parts for this build that I've heard awesome things about. I mean the Intel UD3's are the best OCer's, so I said gigabyte is my #1 choice, and I've heard nothing but good about G.SKILL, so I def. went with them.
Yes pez it is a native Asus club but I welcome all people to participate in the thread. As far as G.Skill well I don't have a lot of experience w/them. I on the other hand have a lot of time w/using OCZ and I have not been let down as of yet other then w/this last purchase:swearing: I can say that I'm sold on OCZ. Tight timmings and overclockability are useally very good w/OCZ providing you pick the right model ram.
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Hey guys, can any of you give this cat a helping hand?
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Originally Posted by HothBase View Post
I guess that shows what a silly benchmark 3DMark is?

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Originally Posted by N2Gaming View Post
I have a question regarding CPU and video Display.

Will a Mobo post and beep but not display video if some part of a cpu is bad???
Absolutely not.



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Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe View Post
N2G, I would suspect anything other than the CPU for this kind of failure.

Here is the sequence of POST Debug LEDs for the LANParty boards that have the four LEDs; the LEDs should turn off one by one until none are on:

4 - System Startup
3 - CPU detected
2 - RAM detected
1 - VGA detected
0 - Successful POST
...
Great info. +1 Vrep!

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I'm done with ebay ...Sorry I know it's not very on topic to the thread, I'm just very irritated.
Sorry to heare that GO, Stop payment (did you use paypal?)

Where you been? We don't see you enough in this thread anymore!

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If I install my new opty on the system will the windows with the prior cpu config boot?? I'm afraid the windows will be hanging when loading the ACPI table What do you think?
CPU swapps should not affect your windows install. If you think there is a driver issue then just remove it and redetect it.


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Hey fellow 939er's. I have some sad news. It would appear that my Asus A8N32-SLI bit the bullet yesterday when it just randomly shut off....
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Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
Pest, do you notice any physical damage to the board (ie. bulged/leaky capacitors)? Are you plugged into a surge/ups device?
:yesir: my first thought.

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Originally Posted by N2Gaming View Post
I gota commend you on a nice try. Sure I'll give you one when pigs fly.


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Suggestions on what I should do? I mean, I'd have to lie about overclocking the board anyway, right?
Asus is great on RMA unless you try to scam them, Just tell them the truth and you will be fine. You have tried a different PS?

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Absolutely not. ASUS asked me if I had done any overclocking on my old board, and I told them that I did. They still authorized an RMA, and moreover, they gave me a brand new motherboard for my broken one (I retained the serial number from my original, and I got a totally different, sealed motherboard in return). I would say that they treated me very well.

I wouldn't hesitate telling them the straight goods about the Firewire port issue as well, as this seems totally unrelated to the current problem.

Anyway, hopefully they will treat you as well as they did me.

Good luck.

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N2, my serial number is on the parallel port, kind of pinkish in color. It roughly 10mm x 26mm.

Pest, have you tried the "hard" CMOS reset procedure? I had a memory issue with my Kingston RAM and it caused my system to do something similar. I stripped it down to the bare necessities (1 GPU, 1 Stick RAM, etc.), and this is according to ASUS's guide that I was sent from their tech support. Pop the battery out, put it in backwards for 30 seconds, then install normally. This resolved my issue, hopefully it'll work on yours. overclocked.
+rep for this, it seems it is a forced hard reset method. Like when leaveing the battery out for a day or 2.

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I know you guys can point me in the right direction here on this site. I know I have seen and read some info on delidding here on this site, but even doing a search seems to not find everything. I would like to delid my 185 and I have an old A64 3000 to practice on now. Please provide links if you can even if they are on another site. I am looking for step by step instructions. Thanks in advance.
I'll do it for you! Just don't be surprised if it comes back with a 9X multi!

+rep for you on the great delidding info N2

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This is the listing of the ram before I made an offer to buy both his cpu and ram as a combo deal. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123
It is possible that the guy has been useing the ram not knowing it was mislabeled, I would contact OCZ (they may replace it).

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Okay... first and foremost, today is Pi Day in the United States. That is, March 14 or 3-14 as being demonstrative of 3.14159265... Completely intentionally (okay, not completely), this is my 3142nd post. That is, it is 100xPi, and then properly rounded. (Proof will appear in this post shortly. Please do not quote me until it does.) I had intended to wait until first thing this morning to post, but due to my family being staying with me, I got delayed.



That said, I can now give you a backlogged multipost.

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What does DMZ stand for? Demilitarized zone? Only thing I can think of.
Exactly. The DMZ should only be used for testing purposes. If you are trying to game with someone, and it is failing, try putting the PC into the DMZ. If it works then, you need to open ports on your router. (If it still fails, the problem is not with the hardware firewall.) Once you test, take the computer back out of the DMZ, and open only the necessary ports.

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Stick with your router, there is no reason to not use it. A hub offers less security and it's only a layer 2 device. If you decide to use the hub then you'll have to designate a computer that will be the gateway to the internet and it must also have two network cards. One would be for home network and the other for the internet. A router eliminates the above and acts as one (layer 3 device).
I concur. A hub is only useful to expand the number of ports on a router. That is, if you have a 4-port router (like I do) and a 5-port hub (like I do), you will have a total of 7 "router" ports. Three devices go into the router, four go into the hub.

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One to add... My cute little OEM Freight train.
Sorry about the delay, PC access has been sporadic. I will add you to the off-site roster later in the week.

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Wow, pez, that's only about 1000 or so 3DMarks above my best on this dual-core...
Sounds about right. With the Brisbane (AM2), they performed identical clock-for-clock in my experience. That is, my Toledo scored the same in 3DMark06 at 2.8 GHz as does my Brisbane. The Kuma (AM2+) slightly beats a Brisbane clock-for-clock. His Kuma at 2.7 GHz scores about the same as my Brisbane at 2.8 GHz.

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Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
Interesting enough the AM2 scores aren't to far away from our S939 results. I wish I would have kept my 4850 3DMark06 benches.
They are substantially similar. Unless you are going AM2+/AM3, there is no reason to upgrade from 939 at this time.

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You would expect the difference between the 3850 and 4870 to be even greater than that, but it's only like 2000.
I guess that shows what a silly benchmark 3DMark is?
Yeah, it is pretty stilted. 2x HD 3850 only scored 500 points less in the overall score than 1x HD 4870x2.

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I have taken the motherboard out of the case and tried different PSU's and another 939 cpu with and without the RAM, but nothing seems to work. The motherboard light is on and when I power it up all I get is a quick surge of power just enough to flash the cpu fan led's for a millisecond.

If you guys can think of anything else I can try please let me know.
The same thing happens with my Abit AT8-32x. That board is now sitting dead in the garage. I am sorry to hear about your misfortune.

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Originally Posted by N2Gaming View Post
Hey blitz I think their may be a problem with the formula when using ram spds of 180/ddr360. have you tried that ram spd yet. the formula shows the same spd as 166/ddr333
Have you tested both in CPU-Z? Unless I am mistaken, that is actually possible.

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While there is no new physical damage about a year and a half to two years ago one of the firewire ports on the motherboard burnt up. As this did not effect the board in anyway I deiced not to RMA it.
Be honest. Tell them that a firewire port on the motherboard died. Since you did not need it (I assume you have another?) you figured you would not waste the RMA department's valuable time and resources. You however need to when the computer no longer functions.

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Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe View Post
About two and a half weeks, as I recall. Not very long, compared to some stories I've heard.
Gigabyte is about 6 weeks round trip.

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I know you guys can point me in the right direction here on this site. I know I have seen and read some info on delidding here on this site, but even doing a search seems to not find everything. I would like to delid my 185 and I have an old A64 3000 to practice on now. Please provide links if you can even if they are on another site. I am looking for step by step instructions. Thanks in advance.
I strongly, STRONGLY, recommend you consider just lapping the IHS first. I wish I never tried delidding my CPU, and would have likely been just happy with the temperature difference between a lapped CPU and a non-lapped CPU. Instead, I ended up with a worthless chunk of silicon.
     
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Asus is great on RMA unless you try to scam them, Just tell them the truth and you will be fine. You have tried a different PS?




+rep for this, it seems it is a forced hard reset method. Like when leaveing the battery out for a day or 2.


+rep for you on the great delidding info N2


It is possible that the guy has been useing the ram not knowing it was mislabeled, I would contact OCZ (they may replace it).

Man I'm gone for 1 day and I come back to 4 pages and a hangover! Well this should teach me to never ever leave my chair!
LOL I guess you'll have to apply super glue to your seat so that you may never leave us again. Mwa ha ha ha .

Thanks for the rep. I have already been planning on calling OCZ first thing this following moday. I was able to get the ram working in the orange slots again. IDK if it was from cleaning the gold traces w/an erasser or from cleaning to orange slots with a toothbrush or is just moving them back and forth a couple of times did the trick. In any case they are working in the orangs slots and passing orthose now for almost an hour. my cpu is getting hot though. voltage is reading 1.31v from EU 4.60 and cpu temps are at 51c both cores. and cpu says 42c so I will change out the cpu cooler here in a few minutes after I pass 1 hours worth of orthos.

I will have to try that hard reset w/the reversed battery in the A8N32 mobo and see if it resolves my issues.
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Have you tested both in CPU-Z? Unless I am mistaken, that is actually possible.
Edit Sorry for the double post guy's.

Thank you blitz, I tried to boot with ddr360 and won't post but when I drop it to ddr333 then it post's but when I use the formula in the excell oc calcualtor it gives me the same spds for both settings.

Puzzled I am.
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Still I bring off-topicness, but the temps I'm seeing with this Kuma are excellent. I turned all my fans down to low, and my CPU is now at 3.012 (it's stable w/ 2.912 so far...just taking it slower than I normally would ). With my fans at low and a 1.4 Vcore, I idle at about 29-30 and my load temp is 42. That's awesome IMO, my computer is almost deadly silent, and I've hit 3.0Ghz. Not to mention I'm getting better healthwise as well. This day ain't so bad after all .
 
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Still I bring off-topicness, but the temps I'm seeing with this Kuma are excellent. I turned all my fans down to low, and my CPU is now at 3.012 (it's stable w/ 2.912 so far...just taking it slower than I normally would ). With my fans at low and a 1.4 Vcore, I idle at about 29-30 and my load temp is 42. That's awesome IMO, my computer is almost deadly silent, and I've hit 3.0Ghz. Not to mention I'm getting better healthwise as well. This day ain't so bad after all .
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*sigh*...so I can get a nice minimum of about 60 fps on most maps in CS:S now, but I get this nice little stutter about ever 3-4 seconds. Not only is it visually noticeable, it's audibly noticeable too...no other game gives me this trouble except...you guessed it another source game (HL2: DM). I can be at 230fps at a point and then I can watch the fps stutter down to about 120...you'd think this wouldn't cause any lag, but it's as if the framerate changes so rapidly that it just causes the lag. It might be because I didn't do a clean install...but everything is running fine and I did a complete reinstall of steam...so eff me right? I'll never be able to play CS:S normally again . And even crysis warhead on the snow levels gets an average of 35 fps and might go to only 30 fps while under heavy battle...*sigh*
 
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so I can get a nice minimum of about 60 fps on most maps in CS:S now, but I get this nice little stutter about ever 3-4 seconds.
Pez, do you have any of the eye candy settings enabled within the game? If so have you tried with them disabled?

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