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Again BlackOmega, as far as it appears, the issues with the CFX 3200 are not due to the BIOS. If this were the case, we would expect Abit and Asus to also have a problem. Yes, driver support in Vista is shoddy for all three. That is to be expected as nVidia does not like to play nice with ATi. (Remember my nForce3 bug.) However, Joe has told me that he has seen rumors of bad traces on many of the DFI boards that hold back their full potential. Whether or not this is true or if I just have a shoddy memory is to be determined by Joe I suppose.
     
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post #14212 of 28665
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Originally Posted by blitz6804 View Post
Again BlackOmega, as far as it appears, the issues with the CFX 3200 are not due to the BIOS. If this were the case, we would expect Abit and Asus to also have a problem. Yes, driver support in Vista is shoddy for all three. That is to be expected as nVidia does not like to play nice with ATi. (Remember my nForce3 bug.) However, Joe has told me that he has seen rumors of bad traces on many of the DFI boards that hold back their full potential. Whether or not this is true or if I just have a shoddy memory is to be determined by Joe I suppose.
Nah, you got it right, Blitz. I have indeed read of reports/rumors of some CFX3200-DRs being plagued by bad traces to/from the ULi SATA controller chip. (As soon as I find the relevant forum thread -- again from a non-OCN source -- I'll post a link here.)

Part of the problem is that it is sporadic; only some of these motherboards were afflicted with SATA-based issues which made the motherboard as stable as Britney Spears. It makes no difference whatsoever whether or not the board is running an overclock or is completely on default settings.

But the issue IS a real one; too many users have reported it, and I've seen it myself. The question is, is it a problem with nVidia sabotaging the chipset when they acquired ULi (I don't think this is the case, to be honest, since this would mean ALL CFX3200s would be relegated to the junkyard), or is it a manufacturing-level defect?
    
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I am including a couple of the A8N32 SLI Deluxe becuase I never did before now.


Don't buy this mobo. It's going back to the seller out of warranty w/defects

In this pic you can see the defective PCIe x16 slot w/a pin not where it should be

So I get the package and have itchy fingers at this point.

Then I open the box and was happy w/all the accessories minus the user manual it was suppose to have.

Here is the Official Driver and Utilities disk.

Here is the validating Venus Sticker on the Mobo. There is no mistaken it. I got a Venus POS.

Here is some glue on the back side of the mobo.

Here is the crack I was talking about.

I think this cap is leaking or something leaked onto the mobo while it was running. Prolly the glue that's on the back side.

Here are some close ups





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N2G, it makes me angry to see someone abuse a Venus like that. :swearing:

I feel bad for your luck, my friend. May Karma be unkind to the seller of that garbage.
    
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I do not know what that white stuff is, but I doubt it is a leaking capacitor. Venus motherboards are unique by their solid capacitors. Id est, they cannot leak by definition. Might have been something else the previous owner did to it however.


Joe: It makes me angry to see someone abuse ANY technology like that. In my opinion, this should be the last motherboard they ever own. People who have bought from me know me; stuff comes like new in factory packaging 99/100.
     
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Good points, Blitz.

Perhaps the cap didn't leak, but just burst?
    
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Looks like someone fried the board and tried to fix it, rather poorly at that. I bet that white stuff is flux.

EDIT: +2 imaginary rep for you Joe for the links. If the CFX was made right it would've been one awesome board.
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I am thinking it is some other foreign substance on the board. The question is... what? (Simulpost FTL: Flux is a possibility I suppose. Knocked the bottle over while getting flux for an unrelated solder? Poor clean job?) Can anyone verify my idea to clean it as safe:

Coffee filter or Kimwipes plus 100% acetone; next to no pressure. Wait at least 30 minutes to ensure total evaporation and no chance of a short.
     
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I am thinking it is some other foreign substance on the board. The question is... what? (Simulpost FTL: Flux is a possibility I suppose. Knocked the bottle over while getting flux for an unrelated solder? Poor clean job?) Can anyone verify my idea to clean it as safe:

Coffee filter or Kimwipes plus 100% acetone; next to no pressure. Wait at least 30 minutes to ensure total evaporation and no chance of a short.
I wouldn't use acetone on anything plastic. It has a tendency to disolve it from my experience. 90% Isopropyl alcohol only I'd say.
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That is true, acetone can dissolve polystyrene. My theory was though that the average motherboard is likely polyvinyl chloride or polypropylene based solely on texture and rigidity. Perhaps test it in an area where there is no traces to be sure beforehand? My theory was the IPA is conductive, acetone is not. Further, acetone is a more powerful solvent more likely able to remove gunk than IPA.

NOTE: It is also more likely to remove glue for the same reason...
     
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