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I use gParted quite frequently both the standalone boot CD and as part of Ubuntu's LiveCD. Just a tip... if you resize a partition containing Windows, make sure you run a check disk before doing anything else with the drive. If you repartition and install a new OS on the new partition, you might make it such that you can access neither install (on the resized partition or the new partition) without a fair bit of hassle. I found this out the hard way.
     
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I use Winrar and Tar98.
Thanks. I'm so frustrated right now. I don't want to spend 3 days trying to figure out how to unzip, install and use a drive manager.

I just found this From HERE. It is free but I have x64 bit os so I have to use the professional version and I don't think it is free. I down loaded the professional ver. I will give it a go and see how much it will cost me if any thing.

EDIT:

Well I tried it and it is a rip off of Nortons Partition magic. I mean it looks identical but like a cheaper version which it is. Only $30 something dollars. Will some one try out the 32 bit home freeware version and tell me if it is any good so that I can post it in the M2N thread as a freeware tool.

Thank you,

N2G

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I use gParted quite frequently both the standalone boot CD and as part of Ubuntu's LiveCD. Just a tip... if you resize a partition containing Windows, make sure you run a check disk before doing anything else with the drive. If you repartition and install a new OS on the new partition, you might make it such that you can access neither install (on the resized partition or the new partition) without a fair bit of hassle. I found this out the hard way.

Thanks. I'm trying to find an easy solution to my problem... Explained. I have a 36G Raptor that has 3 partitions. C, E & F. C is useless waiste of 10 GB and E is full 10 Gb and F is almost full. The boot partition is C I think and my windows files are on E so I can't update to SP2 untill I free up some room.

Now w/that in mind here is what I'm intending to do. take the 74 gig raptor and clone the 36 G raptor. then remove the 36 G raptor from the machine and keep it safe for now. Then boot the sytem w/the 74 G Raptor and resize and merge all the partitions. Now since I'm using a x64 bit os there seems to be no easy way around the fee for the partitioning tool.
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Why even bother partitioning a 36GB drive? I mean maybe 1 partition, but even that on that small of a drive just seems kind of ...well ... useless.
On my 250 GB drives I make a 38MB partition for the OS and all of the other application type software like Adobe and whatnot. And that alone usually takes almost 20GB.
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Okay... here is how you do it, assuming that Windows is installed on drive C:

1) Clone the 36 GB to the 74 GB
2) Using gParted, move F partition over to the end of the drive
3) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
4) Using gParted, move E partition over to the end of the drive
5) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
6) Using gParted, resize C partition to fill the empty space between itself and partition E
7) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
8) Using Windows, copy all data from E and F into C
9) Using gParted, delete partitions E and F
10) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
11) Using gParted, resize partition C to fill the entire volume
12) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically

This entire process will take a few days. Each partition resize/move takes about 2-3 hours.



Here is how you do it assuming that Windows is installed on drive E:

1) Clone the 36 GB to the 74 GB
2) Using gParted, move F partition over to the end of the drive
3) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
4) Using gParted, resize E partition to fill the empty space between itself and partition F
5) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
6) Using Windows, copy all data from C and F into E
7) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
8) Using gParted, delete partitions C and F
9) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
10) Using gParted, resize partition E to fill the entire volume
11) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically


I think you would be better served scrubbing it and starting fresh however.
     
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Why even bother partitioning a 36GB drive? I mean maybe 1 partition, but even that on that small of a drive just seems kind of ...well ... useless.
On my 250 GB drives I make a 38MB partition for the OS and all of the other application type software like Adobe and whatnot. And that alone usually takes almost 20GB.
Hey there you are kicking me in the shorts again. jk

I actually installed this drive back in 2005 when I built the system and I did not know nearly as much as I do now. However I was going off of the DFI Street suggestions of using a small partition to make boot and seek times faster and so on. I had several problems getting the system installed and running properly back then using the x64 bit os and all. Primarily driver and bios settings. Any way to make a long story short once I got the system installed I just left it the way it was because it was so fast and I was happy w/it the way it was. Now for the longer version of the story. About a year ago or so I tried to boot up my system but it would not boot. It turned out my hard drive was full and I was not able to load windows. I think it had to do w/some kind of swop file and the lack of room on the OS partition. So any way that is what brought me to this sight. I had a couple of people offering to buy my mobo from me because I like many other people at the time did not know any better. Once I figured out that it was not loading the os properly because the os partition was too full I started unistalling and deleating files. Well actually I got another 160 G WD and started moving the files. So now I'm left w/the problems that I have. Some files are hard to replace and transfer. Besides reinstalling the os is not someting I prefer to do when I got this one all dialed in.


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Okay... here is how you do it, assuming that Windows is installed on drive C:

1) Clone the 36 GB to the 74 GB
2) Using gParted, move F partition over to the end of the drive
3) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
4) Using gParted, move E partition over to the end of the drive
5) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
6) Using gParted, resize C partition to fill the empty space between itself and partition E
7) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
8) Using Windows, copy all data from E and F into C
9) Using gParted, delete partitions E and F
10) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
11) Using gParted, resize partition C to fill the entire volume
12) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically

This entire process will take a few days. Each partition resize/move takes about 2-3 hours.



Here is how you do it assuming that Windows is installed on drive E:

1) Clone the 36 GB to the 74 GB
2) Using gParted, move F partition over to the end of the drive
3) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
4) Using gParted, resize E partition to fill the empty space between itself and partition F
5) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
6) Using Windows, copy all data from C and F into E
7) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
8) Using gParted, delete partitions C and F
9) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically
10) Using gParted, resize partition E to fill the entire volume
11) Boot to Windows; it will do check disk automatically


I think you would be better served scrubbing it and starting fresh however.
thanks I would try the second suggestion if I knew how to use the Gparted.
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Hey there you are kicking me in the shorts again. jk

I actually installed this drive back in 2005 when I built the system and I did not know nearly as much as I do now. However I was going off of the DFI Street suggestions of using a small partition to make boot and seek times faster and so on. I had several problems getting the system installed and running properly back then using the x64 bit os and all. Primarily driver and bios settings. Any way to make a long story short once I got the system installed I just left it the way it was because it was so fast and I was happy w/it the way it was. Now for the longer version of the story. About a year ago or so I tried to boot up my system but it would not boot. It turned out my hard drive was full and I was not able to load windows. I think it had to do w/some kind of swop file and the lack of room on the OS partition. So any way that is what brought me to this sight. I had a couple of people offering to buy my mobo from me because I like many other people at the time did not know any better. Once I figured out that it was not loading the os properly because the os partition was too full I started unistalling and deleating files. Well actually I got another 160 G WD and started moving the files. So now I'm left w/the problems that I have. Some files are hard to replace and transfer. Besides reinstalling the os is not someting I prefer to do when I got this one all dialed in.


I hear ya. I hate reinstalling OS's, mainly because I've got so many damn games (~120gb worth) and even though I have all the patches backed up on CD's it still takes for freakin ever.
And now that Im setting up this folding rig on the CFX, gonna have to make a RAID array on the NF4 as neither of my 2 NF4 ultra boards have the Sil SATA controller. :swearing: even if they did, there would be all sorts of conflicts because of the chipsets.

I still cant understand why someone would suggest partitioning such a small drive. I mean its a raptor FFS. Its already fast it doesnt need smaller partitions to make it faster

Glad you found this site when you did
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I hear ya. I hate reinstalling OS's, mainly because I've got so many damn games (~120gb worth) and even though I have all the patches backed up on CD's it still takes for freakin ever.
And now that Im setting up this folding rig on the CFX, gonna have to make a RAID array on the NF4 as neither of my 2 NF4 ultra boards have the Sil SATA controller. :swearing: even if they did, there would be all sorts of conflicts because of the chipsets.

I still cant understand why someone would suggest partitioning such a small drive. I mean its a raptor FFS. Its already fast it doesnt need smaller partitions to make it faster

Glad you found this site when you did
Well I'm sure I did not completely follow the guide to a T but in therory I did as the threads mentioned.

Yeah I'm glad I found OCN too just in a nick of time... Now all I have is time...

I just found another Disk Manager called Parted Magic I'm gonna give it a try since it uses a live cd to run the application.
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gParted is a relatively easy interface to operate. I personally use the Ubuntu 7.10 x86 LiveDVD to do it because I am too lazy to download the newest x64 version. I can get you a screenshot guide possibly tomorrow night. The interface is the same in gParted or Ubuntu launching gParted. The advantage of using Ubuntu is you also get the terminal.
     
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Thanks. I'm so frustrated right now. I don't want to spend 3 days trying to figure out how to unzip, install and use a drive manager.

I just found this From HERE. It is free but I have x64 bit os so I have to use the professional version and I don't think it is free. I down loaded the professional ver. I will give it a go and see how much it will cost me if any thing.

EDIT:

Well I tried it and it is a rip off of Nortons Partition magic. I mean it looks identical but like a cheaper version which it is. Only $30 something dollars. Will some one try out the 32 bit home freeware version and tell me if it is any good so that I can post it in the M2N thread as a freeware tool.

Thank you,

N2G




Thanks. I'm trying to find an easy solution to my problem... Explained. I have a 36G Raptor that has 3 partitions. C, E & F. C is useless waiste of 10 GB and E is full 10 Gb and F is almost full. The boot partition is C I think and my windows files are on E so I can't update to SP2 untill I free up some room.

Now w/that in mind here is what I'm intending to do. take the 74 gig raptor and clone the 36 G raptor. then remove the 36 G raptor from the machine and keep it safe for now. Then boot the sytem w/the 74 G Raptor and resize and merge all the partitions. Now since I'm using a x64 bit os there seems to be no easy way around the fee for the partitioning tool.
It works nice on 32bit. Put a 32 bit os on the 10gig and work from that.
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gParted is a relatively easy interface to operate. I personally use the Ubuntu 7.10 x86 LiveDVD to do it because I am too lazy to download the newest x64 version. I can get you a screenshot guide possibly tomorrow night. The interface is the same in gParted or Ubuntu launching gParted. The advantage of using Ubuntu is you also get the terminal.
Man I think when I get 3 rigs up and runnig, I'm going to have to try Ubuntu on one of them. Curiosity is getting the better of me.


Offtopic: (sorta) Hue is that actually you in your avatar? I've been wondering that for a while now
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