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I realize that . That's why I'm trying not to settle for anything below a triple core Phenom II.

That is also what I've been thinking.
Skipping AM2 completely and going straight to AM3 here too.
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That it does . I STILL don't have any problems with my current rig...even Crysis on all High (DX10) with 4x AA. However I paid $70 for GTA IV on launch day...I'd REALLY like to not feel like I wasted that money...since it LOOKS like a good game (just not at 12 FPS).
GTAIV for the most part is so poorly coded that even high end current rigs have issues playing at a good frame rate with all the bells and whistles on.

As for Crysis, since I can play it at 1680x1050 on high with 16xQSAA @ 30FPS average. I see no reason to upgrade just yet. As a matter of fact some of the intel boys couldn't believe that I could get those kind of framerates with that much AA.

I bet if you just upgrade your GPU to a 4890 or a GTX275 it'll make everything a lot smoother and more playable, probably even GTAIV. Although, I've heard that ATi carsd do considerably better where AA is concerned. Aside from that you can give your PCIe bus a 5MHz increase with noticeable framerate improvement. I've found with the A8N32 I was able to OC 5MHz per card. So in SLI I could run it at 10MHz over.
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Problem with ports I suppose. I remember how smoothly GTA3 ran on my PS2 and how lackluster it ran on my PC. GTA4 runs great on a PS3; pity the game is such a disappointment as compared to GTA:SA... Saints Row 2 is far superior. I have not tried it, but Saints Row 2 PC-DVD is available for cheaper than the console versions.
     
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GTAIV for the most part is so poorly coded that even high end current rigs have issues playing at a good frame rate with all the bells and whistles on.

As for Crysis, since I can play it at 1680x1050 on high with 16xQSAA @ 30FPS average. I see no reason to upgrade just yet. As a matter of fact some of the intel boys couldn't believe that I could get those kind of framerates with that much AA.

I bet if you just upgrade your GPU to a 4890 or a GTX275 it'll make everything a lot smoother and more playable, probably even GTAIV. Although, I've heard that ATi carsd do considerably better where AA is concerned. Aside from that you can give your PCIe bus a 5MHz increase with noticeable framerate improvement. I've found with the A8N32 I was able to OC 5MHz per card. So in SLI I could run it at 10MHz over.
The problem with GTA IV is that it'll fully utilize a high clocked Quad core. You can imagine what it does to my poor 3.0GHz dual core. People with e8x00's clocked above 4.0GHz have a hard time playing it, but somebody with a 3.0-3.2GHz Quad core can play it at MUCH higher settings with smooth gameplay.

Honestly, all I'm WANTING to be able to do is play GTA IV on all the lowest settings at my native resolution. My rig struggles to pull a steady 15FPS with all low settings at that resolution. However, even all maxed out....I get the same framerates, which tells me its a CPU bottleneck (for once).

And you're right, I can play Crysis on all High (DX10) with 4xAA and get 25-30 FPS EASILY...which as we all know, is smooth as butter in Crysis. Its ONLY GTA IV that I struggle with, and I figure future games are sure to follow the multicore path anyway .
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I'm with BlackOmega on this one: The problem with GTA IV is not in the hardware it takes to run it, but with the coding of the port. Crysis is supposedly the same.

This opinion, of course, is from a guy who owns neither game at the moment. Having said that, I think I've read enough (including the opinions expressed in this very thread recently by others) to conclude with a reasonable certainty that the problems with GTA IV lie with how it's ported over to the PC.

I suppose there will be a game that will motivate my own desire to move on from my current gaming machine, a game that would simply be unplayable with what I currently have. I imagine it will be a must-play Formula One simulation. But that game, thankfully, does not yet exist.

At any rate, I guess I'm glad I don't have the upgrade itch like some of us do.
    
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I'm with BlackOmega on this one: The problem with GTA IV is not in the hardware it takes to run it, but with the coding of the port. Crysis is supposedly the same.

This opinion, of course, is from a guy who owns neither game at the moment. Having said that, I think I've read enough (including the opinions expressed in this very thread recently by others) to conclude with a reasonable certainty that the problems with GTA IV lie with how it's ported over to the PC.

I suppose there will be a game that will motivate my own desire to move on from my current gaming machine, a game that would simply be unplayable with what I currently have. I imagine it will be a must-play Formula One simulation. But that game, thankfully, does not yet exist.

At any rate, I guess I'm glad I don't have the upgrade itch like some of us do.
Well, I have ALWAYS been a huge fan of the Grand Theft Auto series. I've actually played through the ENTIRE game for GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas. I can't say that about many other games (NFS Underground 2, and that's it). I've been looking forward to GTA IV since I heard about it when I FIRST joined up at this site. Unfortunately, my particular rig gets 15FPS on a GOOD DAY...if I'm lucky, on low or high settings it doesn't matter. However people with Quad Cores can easily play it on all high.

Yes I know the game still has glitches and whatnot.....but my point is, I paid $70 for this game, and I've been wanting to play it and finish it for like 3 years now. I'm determined to be able to at least RUN this game .

I REALLY hate to see this setup go, but at the same time, I'm hoping somebody from here at OCN will have a good use for these golden parts, and will appreciate them. Just like I'll appreciate whatever I upgrade to for many years to come. Even if its a Phenom 9x50BE chip....that'll still last me for a good couple years with 4GB of RAM and my 8800GT.
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I did not know GTA IV was our for three years. I thought it just came out like a year or so ago.
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I did not know GTA IV was our for three years. I thought it just came out like a year or so ago.
It just came out this last Christmas. But I've been following it since it was first rumored.
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It just came out this last Christmas. But I've been following it since it was first rumored.
Oh ok... I thought I was loosing my marbles there for a second. I just went and put it in the PS3 to play it and decided to let my controllers charge for a while before I try to play it again. I tried it a couple of times now but get lost pretty easy making it hard for me to go from one location to my next objective.
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Oh, I'm with you, pio. I LOVE the GTA series. I've got both Vice City and San Andreas for both the PC and the PS2. But since I've got no current-gen console to play GTA IV on, I'm waiting for the day when news breaks that the PC port is at least playable on my current rig.

I'm mightily disappointed that the issues haven't been ironed out by now.
    
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Almost 8TB of storage AMD Stock Cooler Windows Home Server CoolerMaster SilentPro M 700W 
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Lian Li PC-V2000B (with thlnk3r mods) 
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