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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
If you need, I could help you with that. Just give me a budget, and what socket & gpu (if WC the gpu) you are planning on using. And I could whip it up pretty fast.
Thanks Tator.

A budgeted H2O system is not what I have in mind. I'm looking to use a system that has all same materials if at all possible "except for the lines of course" wheather it be steel, aluminum, brass or copper. AMD's AM2 & or AM2+ CPU. For now it would just be a single CPU loop. I may do a couple of GPU loops down the road w/a chipset loop as well but might just purchase the gpu's w/H2O blocks pre-built into the cards for quicker installation w/factory warranty. As for the chipset I would have to be able to get a chipset block that is thin enough w/the in/out flow tubes running horizontal instead of vertical as to permit the use of all my GPU slots.

So for now Lets just say one loop to a Phenom II X4 940 BE w/a decent H2O pump and rad so that I have room for expansion later on if needed.

It's easy to see why I have been so pesamistic with so many things to consider when building the H2O coolant system.

Thank you,

N2G

Edit: I'm not apposed to using second hand parts as long as they were built w/quality materials and were not neglected or miss used by improper types of fluids etc... Cooling systems on a computer can be very complex and just like a cooling system in a car that had steel and aluminum parts there is always the risk of fluid contamination, cooling system materials breaking down from improperly used fluids I.E. " Here is a quick read " water pump, cooling blocks and radiator tubes.etc etc can be damaged very quickly by Electralisis . Although I have never used a H2O system in a PC I have done some research for proper flushing of old fluid and fluid replacement in my vehicles w/aluminum and steel combination motors. Namely My 98 Buick Regal GS and 03 Chevy S-10 LS Xtream P/U truck. So This is another reason for my pessimistic approach to a Decent H2O system.
Edited by N2Gaming - 4/24/09 at 8:50pm
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I have thought about going H2O but the thought of something rupturing (N2's venus comes to mind) and taking my whole system out ,keeps me from taking "the Plunge". But I have knocked around the idea of using a thermo-electric cooler, such as the ultra Chill-Tec.
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No that's part of the issue, I don't know exactly what I want to use and or how to get the best bang for my buck so to speak.
It's expensive compared to the others but it's one of the best too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108082

One nice feature is you can adjust the pump's flowrate if you have to. Alot of folks say this pump is capable of more waterflow than you'd need on it's highest setting.

The pump is one thing you should worry about since it's the heart of any WC'ing system. Never skimp on one of these.

I have two of the above waiting to be used and right now working on getting my res mounted where I want it, then to see what else I need to do. That's where I stand for now.
Edited by Kryton - 4/24/09 at 9:06pm
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It's expensive compared to the others but it's one of the best too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108082

The flowrate can be adjusted to suit the needs of your system, good for tuning your setup.

The pump is one thing you should worry about since it's the heart of any WC'ing system. Never skimp on one of these.

I have two of the above waiting to be used and right now working on getting my res mounted where I want it, then to see what else I need to do. That's where I stand for now.
That looks like a fine pump indeed. Especially when you consider the variable speed control for 5 different flow rates. I also wish to install a digital flow sensor & meter so that I know the instant that I have a problem w/the flow of water to prevent accidental death of system from heat...:swearing:
Edited by N2Gaming - 4/24/09 at 9:11pm
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It's expensive compared to the others but it's one of the best too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108082

One nice feature is you can adjust the pump's flowrate if you have to. Alot of folks say this pump is capable of more waterflow than you'd need on it's highest setting.

The pump is one thing you should worry about since it's the heart of any WC'ing system. Never skimp on one of these.

I have two of the above waiting to be used and right now working on getting my res mounted where I want it, then to see what else I need to do. That's where I stand for now.
Kryton, is that the "Vario" water pump?
    
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Kryton, is that the "Vario" water pump?
Not sure but it is a variable flowrate pump. It's been said the headpressure this thing can deliver is impressive, perhaps even dangerous if you should crank it up.
Most have said from what I gather a setting of "2" out of 1-5 is what most use with their setups.
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Aha. It IS the Vario.

My pump is the non-vario, erm, variation of that model.

I wonder if the ability to set the flow rate manually is a big advantage indeed (or, alternatively, if the inability to set the flow rate is a big DISadvantage).
    
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I was just looking at other alternatives to water pumps and found a couple of fish tank pumps. Here have a look see for yourself at the wide range of prices and quality and warranty periods.

http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod...ank_water_pump

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/pet_supplies.cfm?c=3578+4585&ref=4032&subref=AA&s_ kwcid=TC|6788|fish%20tank%20water%20pump||S|p|9145 35141

http://www.aquariumguys.com/waterpumps1.html
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Aha. It IS the Vario.

My pump is the non-vario, erm, variation of that model.

I wonder if the ability to set the flow rate manually is a big advantage indeed (or, alternatively, if the inability to set the flow rate is a big DISadvantage).
Just saw that myself reading through the reviews on it.

Being able to adjust the flowrate is an advantage. If the water is moving too fast, it doesn't have time to absorb as much heat energy as it could if moving at a slower rate or get rid of it quickly enough via the radiator.
It's like when you run your automobile without a thermostat. The water flows so quickly, it doesn't have time to pickup all the heat to move it nor dissipate what it does get properly through the radiator, making the vehicle overheat due to heat buildup.
Usually the problem is not being able to remove the heat fast enough and it gets recirculated through the engine, hence the buildup.
This ability to adjust the flowrate will let you tune the system for maximum cooling efficiency.

Had to edit this a few times to get it right and understandable....
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Aha. It IS the Vario.

My pump is the non-vario, erm, variation of that model.

I wonder if the ability to set the flow rate manually is a big advantage indeed (or, alternatively, if the inability to set the flow rate is a big DISadvantage).
tmj, I would think a typical variable voltage control switch or rheo would work on your pump for reduced or increased flow rates.

EDIT:

So far THIS is the only thing that I could come up w/that may even be anything close to what might do the trick.
Edited by N2Gaming - 4/24/09 at 9:30pm
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