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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
It just depends on what you want it to get done.
Tator, exactly that is what I'm kind of wanting to know. What exactly are they doing that only requires DOS. Data entry perhaps? That is some hardcore legacy stuff
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Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
. It's funny we keep talking about the 64-bit OS...you guys would be surprised on how many huge businesses and corporations out there that are still using legacy software

Good luck
I'm not surprised either. When I was in the car dealership scene most of the invoicing and inventory lookup screens are basically a command prompt screen with a very basic user interface. The applications I used were ADP and Reynolds & Reynolds.
If the cataloging could be done through DOS I'm sure they'd do it that way too. But since there needs to be a visual aspect of part look up, it needs to be done on windows since that is usually proprietary to the company.
Also, there was even a third portion that had to be done on windows which was actually ordering stock. Whether it be parts or actual vehicles it is all done online now.

Aside from that, a lot of dealerships use really old hardware, so if they wanted to implement a 64Bit OS they'd need to purchase all new hardware.

The extent of what is done, can easily be accomplished using a 32 bit OS.
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Tator, exactly that is what I'm kind of wanting to know. What exactly are they doing that only requires DOS. Data entry perhaps? That is some hardcore legacy stuff
Mostly Raw data entry.

Like you would do on any old Dos machines back in the day (not sure if you're that old )

99% of the time, its something simple. That could be done on a calculator, or with the power of most of our mobile phones.

And they've usually also had these machines for atleast 15 years now. And they were probably second hand at that time.


Though, good news for me, on commission, I got the Network setup at my local computer shop/lan party place.

They are now running 100% open source on the Network, and every machine is running a personal tweak of Windows XP. And specifically outfitted for gaming.

Though, you'd be surprised at what the machines are. They are pretty "legacy"
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I for one am not.

Corporate environments tend to be very conservative in terms of allocating budgets for tech. The reason?

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I believe this, more than anything, is the biggest reason so many (if not a good majority) of corporate IT environments have completely given Vista a pass. Think about it: Why spend money to replace something that works well enough for you? Whatever advances and improvements Vista may have over WinXP, IT divisions and departments don't want to go through the expense (in terms of finances as well as in man-hours spent on installing new OSes and software, not to mention the inevitable de-bugging that has to go on) when they don't have to.
Pretty much spot on, but there is one hugh reason you have missed...

End users!

Good people of OCN can use Vista as good as we can use XP etc, but having to retrain hundreds if not thousands of end users to learn the new OS is the biggest hurdle.

I work for a international sports retailer, with over 500 stores in 8 countries, and when the stores ring the support desk with issues half of them dont know how to turn the PC on (pressing the power button in the monitor doesnt reboot it...).

XP must be one of the longest and well established OS that is used not only it business but at home, so the end user all ready knows afew things about 'windows'.

Show them Vista, with its different look, icon locations etc and they have no idea.
    
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One of them used Lotus; the other used a proprietary software program that looked a bit like Windows 3.1, but was not.

"Legacy" is a shifting term. For example, since when has AGP 8x been Legacy? People still make cards for it!
     
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"Legacy" is a shifting term. For example, since when has AGP 8x been Legacy? People still make cards for it!
Blitz, yes and some places still refurbish scsi drives. I think it depends on where you work at. At my job, anything before LGA771 is considered "legacy". Perc 3/di...too old
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Wow, I lose access for a day and get bust and BAM! you guys go nutz on my forte'!

Unfortunately I don't have time but later I'll try to put together a cohesive example for u guys.

BO's example Of ADP is The best! The environment for that is huge and tough for those not in the know to set up. Also Cobra is a great example.

edit: almost forgot Kronos, can't forget that.
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Just want to thank Joe for the Opty 165; it looks brand new, can't wait to test it this weekend.

Thanks a bunch Joe!!!
    
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BO's example Of ADP is The best! The environment for that is huge and tough for those not in the know to set up. Also Cobra is a great example.
Hueristic, we only have a few ADP users. Our environment is pretty small. Just one terminal server and one database for the etime and reportsmith data. Thankfully we're getting rid of ADP and going with something else soon

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Just want to thank Joe for the Opty 165; it looks brand new, can't wait to test it this weekend.

Thanks a bunch Joe!!!
JEmmaB, right on man congrats. Perhaps maybe you received a "golden opty 165" from Joe. The 170 I bought from him proved to be golden.

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congats jemma! I expect an overclocking log soon .
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