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Hey guys, I have a chance to pick up a Opteron 185 for my A64 3800 + 80$ cash.

Do you guys think it's worth it?

I don't really use the machine, but I'll make use of the chip. I'm just wondering if it's worth the price & trade.

Stepping is LCB9E, any good for overclocking? Which is my main goal.
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However, the only thing on DFI's site is an auto BIOS installer kind of like Asus update.
Yeah, not surprising. Probably the way they forced peops not to downgrade.

I'll bet if you just use the bios flash for the cmos and the bois file it will work fine. Do a google and I bet you'll find tons of peops that are sharing those bios files and the flasher.

This mod was big news a few years back and there are threads everywhere.
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Hey guys, I have a chance to pick up a Opteron 185 for my A64 3800 + 80$ cash.

Do you guys think it's worth it?

I don't really use the machine, but I'll make use of the chip. I'm just wondering if it's worth the price & trade.

Stepping is LCB9E, any good for overclocking? Which is my main goal.
LCB9Es are usually good OCers.

Price is good for a healthy chip, in my opinion (I'd do it, were I in your shoes).
    
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LCB9Es are usually good OCers.

Price is good for a healthy chip, in my opinion (I'd do it, were I in your shoes).
Ah, by the way, if it makes a difference, it'll be on an A8N32-SLi, does that change opinion at all? I know it's a good board for 939, but I'm not sure if it has certain issues with Opteron chips or anything oddball like that?

What do you think the max I'll be able to pull from the chip? I know that's always relative, but estimates of what to expect are always nice.

It's gonna be cooled with a lapped Scythe Mugen 2 w/ 2 Gentle Typhoon 2400 RPM fans.

Ala, T.R.U.E level performance.

Again, thanks for your time Joe
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Joe runs an Asus A8N32-SLI, as does Pioneerisloud, and Froggy1986 with Opterons; the combo is sound. Personally, I would likely take that upgrade, the Opteron 185 is a good chip on its own (the equivalent of an FX-60 but with a locked multiplier) and the stepping is quite enticing. I would be willing to say you will get 2.8 GHz or better on stock voltage.
     
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Hey guys, I have a chance to pick up a Opteron 185 for my A64 3800 + 80$ cash.

Do you guys think it's worth it?

I don't really use the machine, but I'll make use of the chip. I'm just wondering if it's worth the price & trade.

Stepping is LCB9E, any good for overclocking? Which is my main goal.
Thats a good trade if your 3800 is a single core. Considering I paid ~$180 for my opty 180. Its also the LCB9E stepping, which seem to be good CPU's for OCing. @ stock clock I can undervolt it, and at stock voltage I can OC it ~500mhz. After that it starts to require more voltage for anything over 2950MHz.

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Yeah, not surprising. Probably the way they forced peops not to downgrade.

I'll bet if you just use the bios flash for the cmos and the bois file it will work fine. Do a google and I bet you'll find tons of peops that are sharing those bios files and the flasher.

This mod was big news a few years back and there are threads everywhere.
Yea I'll have to find a way to do it manually.

I was thinking that the cards in tandem might be drawing too much power. I think I'm going to try putting my 6800's in and see if both of those show up. I figure if they both show then my PSU might inadequate to power the GSO's. just a thought I had.
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Thanks blitz & BlackOmega

I know that it's an FX-60 w/ locked multi. I could actually pick up a FX-60 CCB2E, but I actually wanted to test my abilities in overclocking, and not just do a multi bump.

It's an old buddy of mine, and he has both (That AMD fanboi )

Any recommendations for the chip? It still has the lid, and I"ll probably lap it. Might not as first, depending on how it does on the Razor Blade test.

Any settings you know that these chips like?

I'm going to run 2x1gb GeIL DDR 400 3-4-3-8 RAM.
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Ah, by the way, if it makes a difference, it'll be on an A8N32-SLi, does that change opinion at all? I know it's a good board for 939, but I'm not sure if it has certain issues with Opteron chips or anything oddball like that?

What do you think the max I'll be able to pull from the chip? I know that's always relative, but estimates of what to expect are always nice.

It's gonna be cooled with a lapped Scythe Mugen 2 w/ 2 Gentle Typhoon 2400 RPM fans.

Ala, T.R.U.E level performance.

Again, thanks for your time Joe
The A8N32sli deluxe is a good board. I had one with an opty 165 on it for years. OC's pretty well, lots of options, good stock cooling. There really isn't anything bad about it.

As for possible OC outcome, I'd say if the chip hasn't been abused you should be able to see 3.1 pretty easy. Now keeping it cool enough to run at that clock will be your biggest concern.
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The A8N32sli deluxe is a good board. I had one with an opty 165 on it for years. OC's pretty well, lots of options, good stock cooling. There really isn't anything bad about it.

As for possible OC outcome, I'd say if the chip hasn't been abused you should be able to see 3.1 pretty easy. Now keeping it cool enough to run at that clock will be your biggest concern.
We'll I'm sitting @ 24*C ambient right now.

With the Mugen 2 I think I should be fine if I can get it that high.

How well did your Opteron do with DDR 500? Or did you use 400?

Do you remember the timings you used?
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Thanks blitz & BlackOmega

I know that it's an FX-60 w/ locked multi. I could actually pick up a FX-60 CCB2E, but I actually wanted to test my abilities in overclocking, and not just do a multi bump.

It's an old buddy of mine, and he has both (That AMD fanboi )

Any recommendations for the chip? It still has the lid, and I"ll probably lap it. Might not as first, depending on how it does on the Razor Blade test.

Any settings you know that these chips like?


I'm going to run 2x1gb GeIL DDR 400 3-4-3-8 RAM.
Until you get everything dialed in, keep you ram at or below 200Mhz. And set all the timings, including command rate to auto. You'll be surprised at what it'll set it to. When I was messing with mine, it set my Hyper-x to 2-2-2-5 timings, but that RAM destabilizes severely anything over 200MHz unfortunately.
The only obstacle I can foresee is the lack of RAM dividers (thats why I went DFI), you'll have to sit down and figure out what multiplier's you'll need to make everything jive. Not difficult, but can become rather time consuming.

FX-60's are nice chips. Out of curiosity, what does he want for it?
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