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Aha, yeah, I feel like poo now...I'm starting the search for a new mobo because I desperately want my 2 2900XT's to work properly together in Crossfire (it'll still probably be a 939 board because I don't have too much money to play around with). I paid a premium for those 2900XT's back in the day and it would be such a waste for me to just put one of them up for sale on eBay. Anyway, I only spent around $100 on the A8R-MVP, so if I find a decent used Crossfire board for less than $100, it would be like I bought a good mobo brand new 2 years ago . That being said...time for me to start browsing the FS forum...and no, it wouldn't be worth it for me to invest my money toward a newer build...I'm a college student .
Edited by decimator - 7/6/09 at 1:31pm
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decimate, have you got a PC case speaker installed? If you do, what beep codes do you get when you try for a POST?

(As an aside, this is one reason why I always want to have a PC case speaker; it helps tremendously when diagnosing POST failures.)

decimate, a question: On the Abit AT8 32X and the DFI CFX3200 (I've owned both), Abit and DFI both put a digital POST diagnostic system; it would give you an alphanumerical code as it goes through POST. Does the ASUS A8R32-MVP have such a digital POST diagnostic system? (I forget, and I've never owned one.) If it does, what code is it showing?

Good luck.
    
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Well thats why they haven't retired it. In case they need to do some carpet bombing or drop a MOAB.

Usually swept wings are there for high speed flight usually to reduce drag. Similar to the F14 Tomcat. When the wings are in the forward position the plane can fly a lot slower, I would imagine with less fuel consumption since more of the wing is being utilized to create lift.

I'd also surmise that the with the wings swept back that, that rather large plane would also have a considerably smaller radar signature as well.
BlackOmega, oh it's payload isn't designed to carry a GBU-43/B. Be cool if it did though.

The swept wing design does provide higher speeds but it was mainly for enhancing the planes survivability. The whole "avoiding radar" thing is integrated in the planes electronics. The plane was primarily built to carry a nuke

Sorry guys for the OT.

Joe, good question about the speaker. I'm wondering if Decimate is getting any beep codes when having both video cards installed.

Decimate, sorry I was little unclear on the boot up issues but are you getting a POST screen with both cards installed or is there no POST screen at all?

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With the ULi drivers, there was a sound stuttering and skipping issue and there was a USB 2.0 lockup issue. It got to the point where most people just disabled USB 2.0 and stuck with USB 1.1 for a while.
although I am not familiar with the board in question I am familiar with uli chipsets (Wich aRE SOME OF THE MOST CUTTING EDGE) and my question is this.
Is this chipset before or after nvidia purchased ULI? If it is before then I would find a driver that was written Before nvidia got their paws on ULI.
If it was after then My best guess is to go through the gambit of drivers and run a driver or reg cleaner in-between installs.

Sorry I can't more help. But if you have a chipset before nvidia acquired ULI then it is more than likely a software issue.

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Originally Posted by BlackOmega View Post
And the ULi chip basically controls everything except for the GPU's (PCIe slots). And I mean literally everything.

From the block diagram you posted it looks like the ULI is a Northbidge companion and a southbridge.
I have a board with this chipset's predecessor and did amazing things with it. SO, I would not give up on it just yet.

Am am under the impression you got caught in a turf war.


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Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe View Post
decimate, have you got a PC case speaker installed? If you do, what beep codes do you get when you try for a POST?

(As an aside, this is one reason why I always want to have a PC case speaker; it helps tremendously when diagnosing POST failures.)

decimate, a question: On the Abit AT8 32X and the DFI CFX3200 (I've owned both), Abit and DFI both put a digital POST diagnostic system; it would give you an alphanumerical code as it goes through POST. Does the ASUS A8R32-MVP have such a digital POST diagnostic system? (I forget, and I've never owned one.) If it does, what code is it showing?

Good luck.
+1 on whats bolded! And yes a code would help, but I doubt there would be one as It looks like a driver issue.

EDIT: BTW Blitz, Good post in my F@Q copywrite issue thread.
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Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe View Post
decimate, have you got a PC case speaker installed? If you do, what beep codes do you get when you try for a POST?

(As an aside, this is one reason why I always want to have a PC case speaker; it helps tremendously when diagnosing POST failures.)

decimate, a question: On the Abit AT8 32X and the DFI CFX3200 (I've owned both), Abit and DFI both put a digital POST diagnostic system; it would give you an alphanumerical code as it goes through POST. Does the ASUS A8R32-MVP have such a digital POST diagnostic system? (I forget, and I've never owned one.) If it does, what code is it showing?

Good luck.
No, the A8R-MVP does not have a case speaker. I wish. My A8N-SLI Deluxe had a case speaker. Why the hell doesn't my A8R-MVP have one?
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Decimate, sorry I was little unclear on the boot up issues but are you getting a POST screen with both cards installed or is there no POST screen at all?
I'm not getting a POST screen at all.
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Originally Posted by Hueristic View Post
although I am not familiar with the board in question I am familiar with uli chipsets (Wich aRE SOME OF THE MOST CUTTING EDGE) and my question is this.
Is this chipset before or after nvidia purchased ULI? If it is before then I would find a driver that was written Before nvidia got their paws on ULI.
If it was after then My best guess is to go through the gambit of drivers and run a driver or reg cleaner in-between installs.

Sorry I can't more help. But if you have a chipset before nvidia acquired ULI then it is more than likely a software issue.

From the block diagram you posted it looks like the ULI is a Northbidge companion and a southbridge.
I have a board with this chipset's predecessor and did amazing things with it. SO, I would not give up on it just yet.

Am am under the impression you got caught in a turf war.

+1 on whats bolded! And yes a code would help, but I doubt there would be one as It looks like a driver issue.
Well, I'm not sure when nVidia acquired ULi, but I'm going to assume it was before because my board has a ULi southbridge mated with an ATi northbridge.

Thanks for all the suggestions, everybody. I really appreciate it. Even if they don't help, it's the thought that counts. +Rep.
Edited by decimator - 7/6/09 at 2:41pm
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No, the A8R-MVP does not have a case speaker. I wish. My A8N-SLI Deluxe had a case speaker. Why the hell doesn't my A8R-MVP have one?

I'm not getting a POST screen at all.
Decimate, do you have spare one laying around or perhaps one that you could take out of a case? The speaker (as Joe pointed out) would be great for troubleshooting. IF you're getting beep codes then you need to know what they are!

Did you happen to try testing with a different power supply?

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although I am not familiar with the board in question I am familiar with uli chipsets (Wich aRE SOME OF THE MOST CUTTING EDGE) and my question is this.
Is this chipset before or after nvidia purchased ULI? If it is before then I would find a driver that was written Before nvidia got their paws on ULI.
If it was after then My best guess is to go through the gambit of drivers and run a driver or reg cleaner in-between installs.
Sorry I can't more help. But if you have a chipset before nvidia acquired ULI then it is more than likely a software issue.
From the block diagram you posted it looks like the ULI is a Northbidge companion and a southbridge.
I have a board with this chipset's predecessor and did amazing things with it. SO, I would not give up on it just yet.
Hue his problems are hardware related, IMO. From what I gather, he has 2 2900XT's, both work just fine. Both of the PCIex16 slots work individually but when both cards are inserted there is no POST. (Sounds a lot like the problem I was having with mine).


Decimate, are those cards powered by the motherboard or separately via PCIe power leads off of the PSU? Depending on your answer, I might have a suggestion.
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Decimate, do you have spare one laying around or perhaps one that you could take out of a case? The speaker (as Joe pointed out) would be great for troubleshooting. IF you're getting beep codes then you need to know what they are!
I can take one from out of another one of my builds. I'll do that later.
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Did you happen to try testing with a different power supply?
I do not have an extra PSU that puts out enough watts to power 2 2900XT's, so no, unfortunately. I doubt it's the PSU, though, because the system ran fine for upwards of 2 years with 1 2900XT and it's a PCP&C. You never know, though, I guess...
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Decimate, are those cards powered by the motherboard or separately via PCIe power leads off of the PSU? Depending on your answer, I might have a suggestion.
They are powered via power leads off of the PSU. Each card requires a 2x3-pin connector and a 2x4-pin connector. Lots of juice...
Edited by decimator - 7/6/09 at 3:00pm
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I do not have an extra PSU that puts out enough watts to power 2 2900XT's, so no, unfortunately. I doubt it's the PSU, though, because the system ran fine for upwards of 2 years with 1 2900XT and it's a PCP&C. You never know, though, I guess...
Decimate, yeah that is one thing I would test out first...as you said above, "you never know". Weren't the 2900XT's really power hungry? Tator or someone can you confirm this?

Do you have multimeter that you could test the PSU with? It may not be required but it wouldn't hurt to eliminate high/low voltages being the culprit. Here is the guide that I typically follow: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/guide...ing-guide.html.

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Decimate, yeah that is one thing I would test out first...as you said above, "you never know". Weren't the 2900XT's really power hungry? Tator or someone can you confirm this?
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