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One advantage of AP US History Nate: you might not need to take US history in College. (My college required 2 semesters of history and one of philosophy, or the other way around. AP Western Civ or AP US History would cover the requirement of History 11/12 (US History 1/2) or History 3/4 (Western Civ 1/2). One less class in college is always a cool thing.

GuardianOdin: Your tRAS appears to be a fuzz tight. The spec for Mushkin redlines are 8 rather than your current 5. Your tRC also appears to be too tight. With tRAS being 8 and tRP being 3, you would expect a tRC of 11. Your tRFC is a little loose at 15 (can be as tight as 13 with the numbers above) but that would only help stability at the expense of bandwidth, so I would leave that alone for now. I personally never had much luck with it, but have you tried loosening your max Async any? I know Poser had a lot of luck with that on his DFI in unlocking insane RAM speeds. (I think my board was either 7 or 11; not sure.)

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*I thought the divider was 183, meaning you would be running DDR-527.
     
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post #18422 of 28692
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One advantage of AP US History Nate: you might not need to take US history in College. (My college required 2 semesters of history and one of philosophy, or the other way around. AP Western Civ or AP US History would cover the requirement of History 11/12 (US History 1/2) or History 3/4 (Western Civ 1/2). One less class in college is always a cool thing.

GuardianOdin: Your tRAS appears to be a fuzz tight. The spec for Mushkin redlines are 8 rather than your current 5. Your tRC also appears to be too tight. With tRAS being 8 and tRP being 3, you would expect a tRC of 11. Your tRFC is a little loose at 15 (can be as tight as 13 with the numbers above) but that would only help stability at the expense of bandwidth, so I would leave that alone for now. I personally never had much luck with it, but have you tried loosening your max Async any? I know Poser had a lot of luck with that on his DFI in unlocking insane RAM speeds. (I think my board was either 7 or 11; not sure.)

EDIT: Silly question. While your CPU is 2900 MHz (10x290) and I presume your RAM is at DDR-483 (given the 180 divider*), what is your HyperTransport set to? If 4x, that would be 1160 MHz, which SHOULD be okay. If 5x (1450 MHz) you are likely going to have problems. You also remembered to set the RAM to 2.8 V right?

*I thought the divider was 183, meaning you would be running DDR-527.
Thanks Blitz, going to give these a go. My HT is set to 3 right now and my RAM is at 2.7V
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The Mushkin Redlines call for 2.8-2.9 V for DDR-500 @ 3-3-2-8-1T if I remember right. *Looks it up.* Okay, Muskin says 2.6 - 2.9 V.
     
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The Mushkin Redlines call for 2.8-2.9 V for DDR-500 @ 3-3-2-8-1T if I remember right. *Looks it up.* Okay, Muskin says 2.6 - 2.9 V.
If I take it to 2.8 it blue screens. The silly RAM like the lower V

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How is case air flow? Have you felt the DIMM heatspreaders to see if they are uncomfortably warm while in operation?
     
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How is case air flow? Have you felt the DIMM heatspreaders to see if they are uncomfortably warm while in operation?
Case flow is pretty good. I have the case temp wire directly on the RAM heatsinks and it is currently 27c

Ok, running at 260 x10 or 2.6Ghz with the RAM set 1:1 and it pass 10 minutes in Orthos. I'm going to try 270 x 10 or 2.7Ghz brb

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Running DDR 540 now, going to test Orthos now.
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If I were you, I would try standard 200x10 with the DDR-500 divider. Then set tWCL and tREF to auto. Make note of their values at DDR-500. Then try the divider you actually want and manually set it to the values given by the SPD when DDR-500. (In fact, I would do this with all timings. I have, in fact, did this with my present DFI board and RAM.)

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If I were you, I would try standard 200x10 with the DDR-500 divider. Then set tWCL and tREF to auto. Make note of their values at DDR-500. Then try the divider you actually want and manually set it to the values given by the SPD when DDR-500. (In fact, I would do this with all timings. I have, in fact, did this with my present DFI board and RAM.)

It is also possible that the RAM just does not like the 180/183 divider, in which case, you might need to experiment with the 166 divider. It is certainly possible. (The G.Skill I have now simply will not POST with DDR2-667. Period. End of story. This is the case with my set, Pez's set, and The_Gamer294's two sets.)
ok, gonna try that now.

At 2.7Ghz and RAM at DDR540 I get this in Orthos a few seconds after start.

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Type: Blend - stress CPU and RAM Min: 8 Max: 4096 InPlace: No Mem: 1790 Time: 15
CPU: 2700MHz FSB: 194MHz [207MHz x 13.0 est.]
9/12/2009 11:43 AM
Launching 2 threads...
Using CPU #0
Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
Press Stop to end this test.
Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.4999958221, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Torture Test ran 0 minutes 3 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
Execution halted.
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At DDR-540, try running Orthos at 3-4-4-12 and see what happens. If it fails again, try the RAM in the other two slots.
     
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At DDR-540, try running Orthos at 3-4-4-12 and see what happens. If it fails again, try the RAM in the other two slots.
Actually I think the Orthos I have is funked.I'm getting goofy error at completely stock speeds. I'm going to go get a fresh version and see if that continues.

EDIT

Orthos downloaded and odd errors stopped.

going to try those settings now

EDIT

Ok, tried those timings Blitz

and a no go. 4.59 mins into Orthos

I think the is issue is in the subtimings, just a gut feeling
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