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chrisme52: It would be neigh on impossible to compare anyone's temperatures in this club. We have vastly ranging ambient temperatures from txtmstrjoe's hellish summer high of 33º C to my own winter low of 15º C. As mattliston said, ambient can have a large impact on actual reported temperature.

egerds: Run memtest on each of the 1 GB DIMMs in turn in slot 2. Three loops are best. If none of them throw an error, then it is possible that the motherboard has a broken slot 1. (The obsessive compulsive can then repeat this with slot 3 and slot 4.) Also, for fun, just try cleaning out the slots with a folded coffee filter dipped in at least 90% isopropyl alcohol. (Rubbing alcohol.) Do NOT use acetone. (Nail polish remover.) Hit up again with a dry filter, and wait at least five minutes before reinstalling the RAM. If the contacts are dirty, it might be causing an issue.

Also, manually go into the BIOS and set the RAM to DDR-333 with 2-3-2-5 as per your reported system rather than leaving them at auto. Then try putting all four DIMMs in. If still no dice, I would look into getting that motherboard replaced.
     
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13 hours ago when i finally got a post, i tested all modules in each slot and then several combo's of the 4 in the dual chan away from cpu, I manually set ddr to 400 2-3-2-5 works as long is i use the ocz that is rated for that. bout 7~9 of those 13 hrs where figuring out that it was the 1st ram slot and only 1gb module. @ work but when i get home I will try the isopropol can paper coffee filter trick. What i though was interesting that when i just had a 256 or 512 that slot ubu memtest x64 ran just fine w/o any exceptions. this is by a long shot no where near my 1st build, i would put that round '96 w/ other ppls garbage and it was a socket 5/7 and i think my 1st clock was 133 @ 148 w/ edo the fp i had didn't cut it. I guess i've been extremely lucky w/ my purchase except my ddr2 ram last feb for my q6600 but i know when i open box they looked fonny and was hestant to even put in board b/c both of modules had visible damage to both side of the heat sinks. so i thats when i broke my 12 lucky hardware streak. i would place the difficulty i've had w/ this up there back when google or online search would not result in quick answers like today. but back then i couldn't figure why the newer hd 3227 mb replacing a 4xx mb hd would not recognize, duh 16 bit fat shrug palm face
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Originally Posted by egerds View Post
hrm will not boot if i have a 1gb ocz 2-3-2-5 in the slot closest to processor, but will with 256 or 512, i have 4 sticks for 1gb why would i not be able to boot w/ in the slot closest to processor but when i have 512 or 256 that slot passes ubuntu 9.04 memtest x64 just fine
What bios version are you running?

Quote:
Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
...Before this particular issue did you ever have this board successfully working?

Good luck
Yeah his posts are sketchy on this, First one seems not but subsequent ones seem so.
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you cant really compare those temps unless teh ambient stayed the exact same, ...
sure you can when the range is so huge. My guess is a foobarred initial mounting and after lap he got a good mount.

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...try cleaning out the slots with a folded coffee filter dipped in at least 90% isopropyl alcohol. (Rubbing alcohol.) Do NOT use acetone. (Nail polish remover.) Hit up again with a dry filter, and wait at least five minutes before reinstalling the RAM. If the contacts are dirty, it might be causing an issue.

Also, manually go into the BIOS and set the RAM to DDR-333 with 2-3-2-5 as per your reported system rather than leaving them at auto. Then try putting all four DIMMs in. If still no dice, I would look into getting that motherboard replaced.
I recommend using a toothbrush to clean mem slots and blow them out with compressed air. And change the auto to something like 266 3-3-3-8 while trouble shooting. I don't run 1 gig sticks in mine but I did have a 1 gig valueram in there (slot one-closest to cpu) for awhile and it worked fine so it's not a board specific issue.

Make sure you have the latest bios.
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was running 1.20, after getting windows running updated to 1.30 its been so long since i've used a 3 1/2 i'm not sure if all 7 of my cables or 5 drives (didn't even attempt to put in the 5 1/4 as i have no ibm disk's commadore yes) are bad but couldn't get floppy to work either

wasn't able to get any post boot 13 hrs ago when found the nanya mem that finally gave pc speaker beeps, except w/ this 1gb in that slot.
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was running 1.20, after getting windows running updated to 1.30 its been so long since i've used a 3 1/2 i'm not sure if all 7 of my cables or 5 drives (didn't even attempt to put in the 5 1/4 as i have no ibm disk's commadore yes) are bad but couldn't get floppy to work either

wasn't able to get any post boot 13 hrs ago when found the nanya mem that finally gave pc speaker beeps, except w/ this 1gb in that slot.
I'm so cornfused by your post.

You did or did not update your bios to the latest version?

You did or did not try to adjust your ram timmings and voltages that support your ram sticks?

You are trying to run 4x1GB of identical ram or you are trying to run 4x1GB of mixed density ram sticks?

I second the toothbrush method. I think coffee filters have a good purpose like on cpu IHS and HSF but in slots where there are sharp edges that can cut and catch fliter material then it just may be possible to create more problems if fibers get caught in the slots.

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Yeah his posts are sketchy on this, First one seems not but subsequent ones seem so.

Make sure you have the latest bios.
^ this
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N2Gaming: He has two, 2x1 GB OCZ kits.
     
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N2Gaming: He has two, 2x1 GB OCZ kits.
Oh ok.

Hey egerds. did you buy your ram brand new in the packaging at a store or did you get it used from different sorces.

The reason I ask is you may have ram that is labled as one type of ram but is actually not what it is labled as.

you can look at the ram part numbers in cpuz. it will tell you the part number of each ram module.

It is very possible you have mixed densities and the sticker on the outside or your ram sticks are labled differnt then what they are reported in cpuz.

I ran into this problem a while back when I purchase a second kit of 2x1GB labled OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K... The only differnce I could notice was the heat spreaders were slightly different and cpuz reported the ram part numbers different then what the lable on the sticks claimed them to be. It turned out the second pair of sticks were binned to run at 2.5/3/2/5 1T and not what the lable claimed of 2.3.2.5 1T ...

Even though this is not the reason for not being able to post w/one stick in the number one slot, it never hurts to look into it to make sure your ram sticks are all identical.
Edited by N2Gaming - 9/29/09 at 9:24am
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wow i like how fast and active this forum is,
Hueristic face palm again, my typo 2.30 (on 3 hrs sleep since sat)
this didn't post ever till found that nanya module
before and after bios update have problems when any of the 4 1gb sticks are in slot closest to cpu
yes all modules are identical (same kit ordered later but same kit sku, same s/n in cpu-z, and bios)
all modules tested individually ok,
and did several combinations in dual channel, but i did not test all possible combinations of the 4 sticks in the 2 slots furthest away from cpu (all individually tested fine in kubu 9.04 x64) hence why 7~9 of the 13 hours was spent just on mem test
and i manually set 200 2-3-2-5
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I've just finished lapping my athlon 64x2 4200.
My cpus used to run at around 35-41 and now its only 26 at idle!
thats with a budget cooler and grease.

I highly recommend this small mod to everyone.

Just wondering, what are the lowest cpu temps out there? and what setups?
Chrisme52, isn't it amazing? It's the cheapest mod for extra cooling. If only we could get a another member here to lap his 940BE then MAYBE just maybe he might see some cooling differences and hopefully start overclocking his processor more *cough Blitz*

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I recommend using a toothbrush to clean mem slots and blow them out with compressed air.
Hueristic, great suggestion. A tooth brush coupled with some isopropyl alcohol is a good combo. The brush is perfect for getting in those DIMM slots.

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and did several combinations in dual channel, but i did not test all possible combinations of the 4 sticks in the 2 slots furthest away from cpu (all individually tested fine in kubu 9.04 x64) hence why 7~9 of the 13 hours was spent just on mem test
and i manually set 200 2-3-2-5
Egerds, are you testing with several different brands of memory ? I thought you originally just a had a OCZ kit? Sorry we're just having troubles understanding your situation. 2-3-2-5 seems pretty tight for memory. What is the model number of this kit? It should be located on the sticker or better yet read off the timings if you can. I believe this was suggested previously by N2Gaming.

Good luck
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