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Part numbers match. Quite possibly the price of the RAM when it was first released. Or maybe they just cut the price down so low to sell their remaining stock.

Good deal for me though . I'll probably run it @ 1600 at some ridiculously tight timings.
I think they are the Micron IC's from the OCZ Reaper/Crucial Balistix line, so I"d say you can probably run 3.6ghz/DDR3 1600mhz Cas 7 no problem.

If you use your HT clock you can get them into the 1525mhz area with Cas 6 probably and 3.75ghz
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I think they are the Micron IC's from the OCZ Reaper/Crucial Balistix line, so I"d say you can probably run 3.6ghz/DDR3 1600mhz Cas 7 no problem.

If you use your HT clock you can get them into the 1525mhz area with Cas 6 probably and 3.75ghz
I was hoping to get them down to 5-5-5-15, I mean they're rated @ 8-8-8-24 @ 1866. You'd think that, that would be attainable especially since they're only 1GB sticks.
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For those curious if a PCIe 1.0 16x / PCIe 2.0 8x will bottleneck the HD 5870s, see TechPowerUp's review of the same.
     
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Interesting.

So if we were able to get a 939 x2 stable at 2.8-3.0GHz w/one of those 5870 cards then it would be equivilant of running it on am2+ w/PCIe 2.0 x8 slot and a x2 cpu at 2.8-3.0GHz or something along those lines.

Edit: that MSI GD70 must have good reviews. I see it a lot lately...
Edited by N2Gaming - 10/9/09 at 9:08pm
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I was hoping to get them down to 5-5-5-15, I mean they're rated @ 8-8-8-24 @ 1866. You'd think that, that would be attainable especially since they're only 1GB sticks.
I have yet to see any DDR3 sticks get as low as Cas 5.

More so, early 2x1GB sets of DDR3 do not do as well at lower Cas settings as they were desinged specifically for Front Side Bus setups like the QX/X series from Intel.

Though, the lowest you're gonna get DDR3 from my experience is 1470-1540mhz Cas 6 depending on the sticks & IC's.

Older 1.75/1.8v Sticks like the 2x2GB Balistix can do that. OCZ no longer makes the Reaper HPC line that could, but they used the same IC's.

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For those curious if a PCIe 1.0 16x / PCIe 2.0 8x will bottleneck the HD 5870s, see TechPowerUp's review of the same.
I linked this earlier in the thread, and still, x8 bandwidth is only a 2-3% loss. Which is nothing.

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Interesting.

So if we were able to get a 939 x2 stable at 2.8-3.0GHz w/one of those 5870 cards then it would be equivilant of running it on am2+ w/PCIe 2.0 x8 slot and a x2 cpu at 2.8-3.0GHz or something along those lines.

Edit: that MSI GD70 must have good reviews. I see it a lot lately...
Yes, and personal experience with the GD70 shows me that it's all looks. Nothing solid under the hood. M4A79T-Dlx & 790FXT-UD5P are better 790FX boards.
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Yes, and personal experience with the GD70 shows me that it's all looks. Nothing solid under the hood. M4A79T-Dlx & 790FXT-UD5P are better 790FX boards.
you run a foxconn though. Is your foxconn better then those others or do you build for others and you just have the opportunity to bench all these systems?

I personally think that GD70 is so sexy and would look very sharp in my BNBB project mod.

EDIT: I forgot to mention I like the ability to fine tune the GD70's FSB w/the OC dial in 1MHz incrimints up to +10MHz or -10MHz = FTW
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EDIT: I forgot to mention I like the ability to fine tune the GD70's FSB w/the OC dial in 1MHz incrimints up to +10MHz or -10MHz = FTW
N2Gaming, isn't this a feature on most motherboards? I mean on my current board I can increase the HT Clock Speed in 1Mhz increments as well....or are you referring to something completely different
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The GD70 has a physical knob on the board if I remember right. You can adjust the HTT real time for testing's sake before going into the BIOS to adjust it.
     
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The GD70 has a physical knob on the board if I remember right. You can adjust the HTT real time for testing's sake before going into the BIOS to adjust it.
^ This.

Sorry I forgot to mention the OC dial is a little knob on the mobo that allows you to fine turn your FSB up or down from with in windows in real time for fine tuning. So if your at or close to your max fsb oc and you can post at say 285 FSB but you want to see how much furnther you can get the FSB w/out crashing etc or your OCCT can't handle 285 then you turn it down a bit till it don't crash OCCT. Now if you do crash from a small bump say 3-5HMz FSB bump then you don't have to clear cmos or even go back into bios. A simple reboot will put you right back at 285
Edited by N2Gaming - 10/10/09 at 9:22am
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you run a foxconn though. Is your foxconn better then those others or do you build for others and you just have the opportunity to bench all these systems?

I personally think that GD70 is so sexy and would look very sharp in my BNBB project mod.

EDIT: I forgot to mention I like the ability to fine tune the GD70's FSB w/the OC dial in 1MHz incrimints up to +10MHz or -10MHz = FTW
I spend and waste alot of money on testing things. And I used to be a reviewer for a (now dead) site. And I'm currently launching a new one.

And my Foxconn is not quiet as amazing as the GD70 in options. But that's just because of the GD70 having more profiles (I have two it as 4 IIRC) and it's physical power circuitry is a bit better. (6phase vs 8phase)

Though, as far as overclocking chips go, my board holds up just fine. And works just about the same as the GD70.
The GD70 did better on the 965BE, but that's before I got the newer P09 Beta BIOS which is supposed to improve that, and obviously have not been able to cross test.

But I do build for others, but I have owned and tested all the 790FX boards for AM3.

My ranking goes
Gigabyte
Asus (M4A, haven't tested Crosshair III)
DFI (beware of Customer Support)
MSI
Jetway (if you can find it for $100 it is pretty nice though for folding)

I can say that you probably won't be let down by the GD70, but if you don't really need that 4xPCIe x16 layout..then the Gigabyte is so much more of a solid platform.

The Asus M4A79T-Dlx is catching up, as it started off with some kinda shoddy BIOS, but they've been working on it.

GD70 just has so many mediocre parts to it's overclocking when stacked against other boards.
As in, it was much harder to take a 945BE (940BE ES chip) to 4.0ghz on the GD70 than it was my 790FXT-UD5P.
More so when you try HT Overclock.
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