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My divider is currently at 333, I believe. So do you mean try 3-3-3-8 to see if i can OC more, or are you saying reduce to 266, then raise the tRAS to 8? Wouldn't I always want to have the lowest/tightest timings possible? I guess this is the only time I have ever messed with timings so I may be way off?
Lower your divider down to 266. At all bone stock speeds, your RAM will be at DDR333 (instead of 400) because the 939 memory controller can't handle DDR400 with 4 sticks installed.

So lower your divider down, loosen timings to say 3-4-4-8-2T or so...and go for CPU speed. You can tighten your timings later.
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Do I qualify?
Eternalenergy311, you sure do

Welcome to the club. I added your name and overclock to the roster. Let us know if anything changes that way we can make the appropriate changes.

Looks like Blitz and Pio have you on the right track!

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First of all, thanks for everyones advice thus far. I have managed to get up to 2.75GHZ, air cooled still 40 idle, 53 loaded. timings are at 3-3-3-8 (stock) but I did lower the divider to 266. I am fairly impressed thus far. So do you think I am pushing the temp limit, tighten the timinngs now, or go for 2.8?

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I would suggest that you keep pushing that HTT as high as it will let you go while maintaining stability and then see where you stand.
     
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So the benchmark program (passmark) started erroring at 2.85GHz, so i went back down to 2.80. I also have tightened the timings back up to 3-3-3-5-11-2T. Memory is set at 266, so I am getting DDR 373, at least thats what memtest86 says, which I am running now (no errors so far.) Passmark score was finally over 900, although it may go up a little with timings turned up now. I guess if memtest passes, no programs error, and i can run Prime95 for "a while", I think I will have an even more successful overclock thanks to your guys help. I never really know how long to run tests like prime 95, or memtest. Any suggestions on that? I really hate to heat the cpu that much for that long for no real good reason. eg; 55-57. I mean yes I game moderatly and run some fairly intense programs at times, do alot of multitasking, but nothing that ever pushes the core temp that high for that long. I feel I have adequate cooling but, don't really want to risk frying the chip anymore than I already am. I know that is a ludacris statement on an overclock forum but...

Thanx again to all.
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I guess if memtest passes, no programs error, and i can run Prime95 for "a while", I think I will have an even more successful overclock thanks to your guys help. I never really know how long to run tests like prime 95, or memtest. Any suggestions on that? I really hate to heat the cpu that much for that long for no real good reason. eg; 55-57.
Eternalenergy311, everyone has there own different methods of stability testing. For Prime95/Orthos some believe 1 hour is sufficient. Personally with those applications I prefer 7-8 Hours (blend). For memtest86+ I typically suggest running tests 5 and 8 each. Try doing at least 3-6 loops.

The above load temperatures you listed are completely fine. That is about the norm for these processors. My Opteron 170 loaded around that temperature. In terms of "frying" your processor I highly doubt that will occur. The worst that could happen would be electromigration but that happens over time. The main cause of that is extreme high voltages with minimal cooling.

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Eternalenergy311, everyone has there own different methods of stability testing. For Prime95/Orthos some believe 1 hour is sufficient. Personally with those applications I prefer 7-8 Hours (blend). For memtest86+ I typically suggest running tests 5 and 8 each. Try doing at least 3-6 loops.

The above load temperatures you listed are completely fine. That is about the norm for these processors. My Opteron 170 loaded around that temperature. In terms of "frying" your processor I highly doubt that will occur. The worst that could happen would be electromigration but that happens over time. The main cause of that is extreme high voltages with minimal cooling.

Hope that helps


Yes that does help, thank you. I only have my core voltage up to 1.39 at this point. Next step on my board is 1.41, so maybe I will try that at 2.85 or even more and see what happens.
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Yes that does help, thank you. I only have my core voltage up to 1.39 at this point. Next step on my board is 1.41, so maybe I will try that at 2.85 or even more and see what happens.
Eternalenergy311, if temperatures become more of a pressing issue after upping the cpu voltage try a few things like improving case airflow, cable management and lapping the cooler/ihs. You could go as far as buying a new cooler if you feel that your current one is insufficient. The "advertised" maximum operating temperature for this processor ranges between 49-71C. You have some room to grow so don't be afraid.

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Yes that does help, thank you. I only have my core voltage up to 1.39 at this point. Next step on my board is 1.41, so maybe I will try that at 2.85 or even more and see what happens.
Honestly, I would keep your temperatures BELOW 65*C. I've personally had a full load on my X2 (that I had) at 95*C for a full 48 hours...and it was still alive and kicking before I had to sell it. Just keep your temps below 65, and you won't have any problems.

Honestly, I expect you SHOULD be able to pass 2.8GHz with that thing. Keep your memory timings loose for now. Keep bumping voltage up and HTT up (as needed on the voltage). I want to see you hit that magic 3.0GHz. Its a Toledo, so you can expect 2.8-3.0Ghz out of her pretty easily.

Like I said, don't worry about your memory for now. Keep that out of the way by having it clocked as low as possible (DDR266 divider should be fine) and stock timings. We can help you tighten up your timings later...for now, let's get that Toledo up there .
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Welcome to the club eternalenergy311, I'm glad to see another 939 breatherer in the club. Looks like you have been taken care of on the OC front by blitz & Pio. I don't think I can add much to what has been said already other then to reconfirm a few things.

Case air flow management is crucial when it comes to keeping your temps down. The Amb. temps are cooling off depending on what part of the world you live in so that should help w/your overclocks. Cable management will help w/better air flow into and exiting out of your case w/out too much turbulance. You can also use a lazer temperature probe to look for dead air zones inside your case or go high tech and get some military grade thermal imaging hardware...

I think you should just push your chip to see what your max CPU spd is after adjusting your ram timings/dividers. Once you hit a wall on your CPU spd then go for finding how to reduce the heat of your cpu and other internals by any means necessary. You could use a Gheto mod for testing like I did here to reduce system heat. I removed the side cover and replaced it w/cardboard. Then I cut a slot in the side to allow me to adjust the position of my fan to find the optimum placement of my side fan to keep my NB chipset cool.


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