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Using XP pro sp3.

Kryton, have you noticed when you start to get a higher OC that you start getting artifacts?

When I get to 3500Mhz or more I start getting artifacts in games like Far Cry 2, and when I run 3dmark I get frame skipping about once every second. Do you get the same thing? And out of curiosity what BIOS are you running?



I'll give that a try and see what happens.
SP3 finally!
could be power supply related, heat or voltage (either starved or saturated).

Sorry I can't be more specific but this can be caused by many things but is more than likely a migration or voltage drop issue.

:edit: This happens when your GPU is at stock right? Otherwise it could be many other issues. Test that first. I assumed it was with GPU @ stock as your working on your cpu right now.
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SP3 finally!
could be power supply related, heat or voltage (either starved or saturated).

Sorry I can't be more specific but this can be caused by many things but is more than likely a migration or voltage drop issue.

:edit: This happens when your GPU is at stock right? Otherwise it could be many other issues. Test that first. I assumed it was with GPU @ stock as your working on your cpu right now.
Yep GPU(s) are at stock settings.

I'm kind of doubting that it's the PSU as this doesn't happen lower CPU clock speeds. And it doesn't matter whether I ramp up the multiplier or HTT, once it hits a certain speed the artifacts/skipping starts.
Also, NB speed plays no part in it, whether it's at 2000MHz or 2700MHz it still does it.
I've been thinking about this for a couple of days now and I am starting to wonder if I should up some of the PCIe voltages. Or perhaps even the upping the PCIe frequency to match the rest of the system.
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Yep GPU(s) are at stock settings.

I'm kind of doubting that it's the PSU as this doesn't happen lower CPU clock speeds. And it doesn't matter whether I ramp up the multiplier or HTT, once it hits a certain speed the artifacts/skipping starts.
Also, NB speed plays no part in it, whether it's at 2000MHz or 2700MHz it still does it.
I've been thinking about this for a couple of days now and I am starting to wonder if I should up some of the PCIe voltages. Or perhaps even the upping the PCIe frequency to match the rest of the system.
Is the chip stable enough to lower the vid and run the benchmark that is skipping? Could be a timeing issue but I'm not betting on it. If the gpu is at stock with locked pci-e then I'm thinking voltage or migration due to heat. and as you keep your heat under control the Frequency plus voltage can be causing your substrate to fail.
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Omega, one of our vast OCN members that don't like to follow instructions when asking for help was having this problem w/CPUZ not validating. He claims a fresh OS install fixed his problem. Link to his post once he got it working.
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That has happened to me before BlackOmega. Try restarting the computer, verifying your system clock matches present time, and creative a new CVF file. Some clocks require two to four CVFs before the system finally takes it.
     
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Blits, why didn't I think of that. I do remember a long time ago not being able to validate due to my system date being off...
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Using XP pro sp3.

Kryton, have you noticed when you start to get a higher OC that you start getting artifacts?

When I get to 3500Mhz or more I start getting artifacts in games like Far Cry 2, and when I run 3dmark I get frame skipping about once every second. Do you get the same thing? And out of curiosity what BIOS are you running?



I'll give that a try and see what happens.
Honestly I haven't used this rig for gaming yet. All I have are some Nvidia cards and a few really older ones for now. They work fine with my older stuff and probrably would with this one too, I simply haven't tried it yet.

I really need to update my video card hardware before too long.

As to the BIOS version, I'm running the 1.5 file for now. Already got the 1.6 file but haven't loaded it yet because I'm not using the machine at the moment.

As to why I'm not using it, here's why:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=797863

Looking to see how far I can really take it. Did that with a DFI NF2 Ultra Infinity MB. Doesn't like high FSB speeds for some reason but can throw plenty of voltage at the chip - That's why the multi is so high.
Edited by Kryton - 10/31/09 at 11:12am
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As to why I'm not using it, here's why:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=797863
Wow, that's loads faster than the 800MHz Duron I used to run in my Socket A. Very impressive, I can't even reach those clocks on my 939.
 
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Is the chip stable enough to lower the vid and run the benchmark that is skipping? Could be a timeing issue but I'm not betting on it. If the gpu is at stock with locked pci-e then I'm thinking voltage or migration due to heat. and as you keep your heat under control the Frequency plus voltage can be causing your substrate to fail.
Hue, I'm not sure if I'm following you here on this. Which VID are you referring to, and of course MSI calls everything associated with CPU voltage something different entirely. At any rate here's all of the voltages that are customizable:

CPU VDD Voltage
CPU-NB VDD Voltage
CPU Voltage
CPU-NB Voltage
CPU-PLL Voltage
CPU DDR-PHY Voltage
DDR VREF Voltage
NB Voltage
NB-PCI-e Voltage
NB-PCIe I/O Voltage
HT Link Voltage
SB Voltage

Also, you mentioned heat being a likely suspect. My CPU even at 1.495v idles ~30C And loads @ 49C. And obviously with the lower clocks are lower volts and much lower temps. I'm thinking that the signal from the PCIe lanes is getting muddled somehow. So I was contemplating increasing the "NB -PCI-e" and "NB-PCI-e I/O" voltages to see if that would improve signal strength and take care of the video anomalies.



Quote:
Originally Posted by N2Gaming View Post
Omega, one of our vast OCN members that don't like to follow instructions when asking for help was having this problem w/CPUZ not validating. He claims a fresh OS install fixed his problem. Link to his post once he got it working.
I suppose if all else fails, that might be the only option.

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Originally Posted by blitz6804 View Post
That has happened to me before BlackOmega. Try restarting the computer, verifying your system clock matches present time, and creative a new CVF file. Some clocks require two to four CVFs before the system finally takes it.
I'll try submitting it a few times and see if it takes. I verified the system clock/date's match.
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At any rate here's all of the voltages that are customizable:

CPU VDD Voltage
CPU-NB VDD Voltage
CPU Voltage
CPU-NB Voltage
CPU-PLL Voltage
CPU DDR-PHY Voltage
DDR VREF Voltage
NB Voltage
NB-PCI-e Voltage
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My board only has 3: CPU, RAM and Chipset.
EDIT: Actually, I forgot AGP Voltage.
 
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