Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › The Socket 939 Appreciation Club and Knowledgebase [Official]
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The Socket 939 Appreciation Club and Knowledgebase [Official] - Page 2057

post #20561 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyWW View Post
The link is in my sig...
Sorry, I was not paying attention, anyway. I would try a 10x multi, turn your mem down to 333, set your HTT(FSB) to 240, the core voltage at maybe 1.37 or 1.39, and most importantly set your HT multi to 3x, 4x if it will run it. I have definetly found that an HT link over 1000 is all bad news in most cases. As I am sure you hvae read 750/800-1000 is optimal. If all that runs ok, let us know, and we can work it up from there. What kind of memory do you have anyway, the CPUID is not listing the manufacturer.
post #20562 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by eternalenergy311 View Post
Sorry, I was not paying attention, anyway. I would try a 10x multi, turn your mem down to 333, set your HTT(FSB) to 240, the core voltage at maybe 1.37 or 1.39, and most importantly set your HT multi to 3x, 4x if it will run it. I have definetly found that an HT link over 1000 is all bad news in most cases. As I am sure you hvae read 750/800-1000 is optimal. If all that runs ok, let us know, and we can work it up from there. What kind of memory do you have anyway, the CPUID is not listing the manufacturer.
Supertalent - It's detailed in the system info at the bottom of my posts...

I've tried at 4X, I think I turned the mem down (all I can see in BIOS is something like 'CPU / DDR Ratio' which I set to 1/1.66), so I'm really not sure how to turn the mem speed down). 240 FSB! I had it at 215 / 220 with what I tried and got hardware failures in the stability tests (I was using Everest then).
post #20563 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyWW View Post
Supertalent - It's detailed in the system info at the bottom of my posts...

I've tried at 4X, I think I turned the mem down (all I can see in BIOS is something like 'CPU / DDR Ratio' which I set to 1/1.66), so I'm really not sure how to turn the mem speed down). 240 FSB! I had it at 215 / 220 with what I tried and got hardware failures in the stability tests (I was using Everest then).
give me a minute I am reading your MB manual...brb
post #20564 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyWW View Post
Supertalent - It's detailed in the system info at the bottom of my posts...

I've tried at 4X, I think I turned the mem down (all I can see in BIOS is something like 'CPU / DDR Ratio' which I set to 1/1.66), so I'm really not sure how to turn the mem speed down). 240 FSB! I had it at 215 / 220 with what I tried and got hardware failures in the stability tests (I was using Everest then).
Ok, I have the manual I believe for your board/bios. Under the "MB intelligent tweaker" HT Frequency should equal 4x, CPU Frequency=240, K8 CPU clock ratio, what are your options? DDR clock/ Timing mode: what are your options? Is 2/1.66 an option, resulting in what i believe would be ddr 333.
post #20565 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyWW View Post
Supertalent - It's detailed in the system info at the bottom of my posts...

I've tried at 4X, I think I turned the mem down (all I can see in BIOS is something like 'CPU / DDR Ratio' which I set to 1/1.66), so I'm really not sure how to turn the mem speed down). 240 FSB! I had it at 215 / 220 with what I tried and got hardware failures in the stability tests (I was using Everest then).
A couple more things I have been told...If there is an option to do so, disable "spred spectrum" in your bios, and definetly disable the "cool and quiet" feature if applicable.
post #20566 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by eternalenergy311 View Post
A couple more things I have been told...If there is an option to do so, disable "spred spectrum" in your bios, and definetly disable the "cool and quiet" feature if applicable.
OK, thanks. I'll have to tackle this later as I have to do some real work! I'll give it a go and get back to you...thanks for your time so far.
post #20567 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by N2Gaming View Post
That is weird that your FSB is reverting back to stock settings. Is that the only setting that does that or do all your settings do that like your cpu multi, ram divider, cpu/ram voltages etc etc?
Only the FSB is reverting to 200MHz.

Regarding the memory, how could I modify the timings, lowering or highering? And wich of the values (CL, Ras...). I don't have no idee in how to overclock memory...
Here are my memory specs:



In the JumperFree BIOS menu is a setting of PCI Clock set to 100 MHZ, an another Syncronisation of PCI clock, with three settings Auto, To CPU and another one. About what are these settings?
Edited by h2oxtreme - 12/1/09 at 3:46am
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3200+ Venice @ 2GHz ASUS A8N5X X1300 2x1GB DDR GEIL ValueRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB Samsung ASUS DVD-RW Windows 7 SAMSUNG 225BW 
Power
AKASA 460W 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 3200+ Venice @ 2GHz ASUS A8N5X X1300 2x1GB DDR GEIL ValueRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB Samsung ASUS DVD-RW Windows 7 SAMSUNG 225BW 
Power
AKASA 460W 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20568 of 28751
As far as I know, that controls PCI speed. You absolutely do NOT want to set that "To CPU." If you do so, you will start overclocking your PCI slots past the recommended 33 MHz, which carries few benefits and many faults.

JeremyWW: As eternalenergy311 said, 2/1.66 means you are running your RAM on the DDR-333 divider. With an 11x multi and a 206 HTT, that works out to be DDR-324. (The explanation for which is not relevant.) To test the limits of your board, you will want to set the memory divider to 2/1 (DDR-200), reduce your K8 multiplier to 6x if possible, and slowly increase the HTT (or FSB) until you can no longer run Prime 95 (or Orthos, the link is in the first post) with stability. When you can no longer run it, write down the number and decrease your HyperTransport Link to 4x. Continue until unstable, record, and drop to 3x, et cetera. When you can no longer be stable no matter what your HyperTrasport Link is set to, we are 1/3 of the way to methodically determining your best system overclock. List all the numbers you have gathered here. (That is, list them like 5x = 220, 4x = 250, 3x = 320, et cetera.)

Next, you will want to put your CPU multiplier back to 11x. Slowly increase the HTT again until you are unstable. Record the speed and mutliplier, then decrease by one. Continue as before. When you get the CPU to being unstable no matter what, post that here as well. (Listed as before; 11x = 210, 10x = 240, et cetera.) Make sure you adjust your HyperTransport Link in accordance with the previous step.

Lastly, set your RAM to 2/2, your CPU back to 6x, and slowly move up the HTT again. When you are no longer stable, decrease your RAM to 2/1.66, then 2/1.33, et cetera. Again, list all the speeds you record.

With these three sets of numbers we can help you get the perfect overclock. (In theory.)
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770k ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 FTW (03G-P4-3784-KR) Crucial Ballistix Sport 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 HDS5C3020ALA632 Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721075KLA330 Hitachi X Mobile 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG CH08LS10 (SATA BD-R / DVD±R / CD-RW) Prolimatech Megashadow Scythe S-Flex SFF21G x2 Scythe S-Flex SFF21F x2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TR-FDB-1600 x4 XCLIO Amazing Fan 250mm Scythe Kama Bay SCKB-1000BK x3 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 
OSOSOSOS
Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) Fedora 15 LXDE (via Virtualbox) Slackware Linux XFCE (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
LG 47LH40 Acer G276HL Gbd Acer G276HL Gbd Unicomp Classic 104 Black Buckling Spring PS2 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Silverstone OP1000-E Modded Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS Logitech G500 Massive generic black foam mat 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty C... Denon AVR-1910 Polk Audio Monitor 40 Polk Audio Monitor 30 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Polk Audio CS1 Polk Audio PSW10 Jamo C400SUR Plantronics Gamecom 377 
AudioOtherOtherOther
LG HBM-235 Genovation ControlPad 683 Canon Imageclass MF4450 12" Dual White Cold Cathode Kit x3 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Microsoft Strategic Commander UPEK Eikon Digital Privacy Manager Logitech G27 Playseat Revolution (NASCAR) 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Playseat Revolution Gearshift Holder Sony DualShock 3 Microsoft Lifecam VX-1000 D-Link DBT-120 
OtherOther
APC SMT1500 HP Photosmart 3210xi All-in-One 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 Merom Toshiba ISRAA 1.0 (Socket 479) ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 modded CCC 10.6 OCZ2MV6674GK 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Hitachi Travelstar 7K500 HD20500 Western Digital Caviar Blue (WD6400BEVT-22A0RT0) Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850S ATA Stock heatpipe system 
CoolingOSOSOS
Thermaltake Massive23 CS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
17.0" Diagonal Widescreen WSXGA+ Internal only 19 V, 6.32 A Stock 17" Satellite shell (8.5 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Small generic black foam mat HP Thin USB Powered Speakers Fiio E5 Headphone Amplifier 
AudioOtherOther
Griffin iTrip P1141 Microsoft GPS 168 Toshiba Backpack PA1366U-1NCS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ Barton Hewlett-Packard 0024 ATI Mobility Radeon IGP-320M Crucial CT6464X265.16FG 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Toshiba MK4021GAS Toshiba SD-R2512 Stock heatpipes Windows XP Home SP3 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
15.0" XGA TFT Internal only 18.5 V, 4.9 A Stock 15" Pavilion Shell (8 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech MX510 Gaming Optical Generic gel-based green Internal Altec Lansing only Targus PAU10KU 
OtherOther
D-Link DWL-G650M Generic black messenger-style bag 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770k ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 FTW (03G-P4-3784-KR) Crucial Ballistix Sport 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 HDS5C3020ALA632 Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721075KLA330 Hitachi X Mobile 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG CH08LS10 (SATA BD-R / DVD±R / CD-RW) Prolimatech Megashadow Scythe S-Flex SFF21G x2 Scythe S-Flex SFF21F x2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TR-FDB-1600 x4 XCLIO Amazing Fan 250mm Scythe Kama Bay SCKB-1000BK x3 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 
OSOSOSOS
Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) Fedora 15 LXDE (via Virtualbox) Slackware Linux XFCE (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
LG 47LH40 Acer G276HL Gbd Acer G276HL Gbd Unicomp Classic 104 Black Buckling Spring PS2 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Silverstone OP1000-E Modded Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS Logitech G500 Massive generic black foam mat 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty C... Denon AVR-1910 Polk Audio Monitor 40 Polk Audio Monitor 30 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Polk Audio CS1 Polk Audio PSW10 Jamo C400SUR Plantronics Gamecom 377 
AudioOtherOtherOther
LG HBM-235 Genovation ControlPad 683 Canon Imageclass MF4450 12" Dual White Cold Cathode Kit x3 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Microsoft Strategic Commander UPEK Eikon Digital Privacy Manager Logitech G27 Playseat Revolution (NASCAR) 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Playseat Revolution Gearshift Holder Sony DualShock 3 Microsoft Lifecam VX-1000 D-Link DBT-120 
OtherOther
APC SMT1500 HP Photosmart 3210xi All-in-One 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 Merom Toshiba ISRAA 1.0 (Socket 479) ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 modded CCC 10.6 OCZ2MV6674GK 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Hitachi Travelstar 7K500 HD20500 Western Digital Caviar Blue (WD6400BEVT-22A0RT0) Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850S ATA Stock heatpipe system 
CoolingOSOSOS
Thermaltake Massive23 CS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
17.0" Diagonal Widescreen WSXGA+ Internal only 19 V, 6.32 A Stock 17" Satellite shell (8.5 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Small generic black foam mat HP Thin USB Powered Speakers Fiio E5 Headphone Amplifier 
AudioOtherOther
Griffin iTrip P1141 Microsoft GPS 168 Toshiba Backpack PA1366U-1NCS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ Barton Hewlett-Packard 0024 ATI Mobility Radeon IGP-320M Crucial CT6464X265.16FG 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Toshiba MK4021GAS Toshiba SD-R2512 Stock heatpipes Windows XP Home SP3 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
15.0" XGA TFT Internal only 18.5 V, 4.9 A Stock 15" Pavilion Shell (8 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech MX510 Gaming Optical Generic gel-based green Internal Altec Lansing only Targus PAU10KU 
OtherOther
D-Link DWL-G650M Generic black messenger-style bag 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20569 of 28751
Quote:
Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
BO, I commonly use these since they are easier to understand for most:

HT Link speed - HyperTransport
HT Clock speed - Reference clock speed

The problem is a lot of board manufacturers use different terminology which can be confusing at times
Those dang mobo manufacturers :swearing:

I did a tad bit more reading if there is a difference between the 3 and it seems that technically, there really isn't. It's not HT ref clock, or HTT or HT but simply the "reference clock".

Man it's really difficult to find a direct answer to that question.
Black Box
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k Asus P8Z77-Vpro Evga 780 Classified Crucial Ballistix 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
A-Data 128GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Pioneer BDR-207DBK Corsair H80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 pro 64 Hannspree 25" 1080p LCD 2ms Razer Lycosa PC Power & Cooling 760w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair 550D MX 518 Allsop Creative XFi Xtreme music 
  hide details  
Reply
Black Box
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k Asus P8Z77-Vpro Evga 780 Classified Crucial Ballistix 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
A-Data 128GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Pioneer BDR-207DBK Corsair H80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 pro 64 Hannspree 25" 1080p LCD 2ms Razer Lycosa PC Power & Cooling 760w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair 550D MX 518 Allsop Creative XFi Xtreme music 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20570 of 28751
Good posts eternalenergy311 and Blitz!

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackOmega View Post
Those dang mobo manufacturers :swearing:

I did a tad bit more reading if there is a difference between the 3 and it seems that technically, there really isn't. It's not HT ref clock, or HTT or HT but simply the "reference clock".

Man it's really difficult to find a direct answer to that question.
BlackOmega, what's funny too is that this guide refers to "HTT" being the reference clock speed too. However for AMD guys HTT usually stands for HyperTransport Technology. Some also get it confused with Hyperthreading Technology
Workstation
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X4 620 Asus M4A785-M Asus 5770 G.Skill 8GB DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD3200AAJS Windows 7 Pro Acer AL2216W, Samsung P2770 Corsair 550VX 
Case
Tagan Black Pearl 
  hide details  
Reply
Workstation
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X4 620 Asus M4A785-M Asus 5770 G.Skill 8GB DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD3200AAJS Windows 7 Pro Acer AL2216W, Samsung P2770 Corsair 550VX 
Case
Tagan Black Pearl 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD - General
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › The Socket 939 Appreciation Club and Knowledgebase [Official]