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How long is a piece of string?
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LOL.

Actually, if you look at the first one, while obviously being a somewhat extreme example, does in fact promote more thought process. As the person would be like what the hell are you talking about and try to make sense of it.
More thought process, perhaps. But ask yourself this: Do you WANT to go through that kind of thought process, all the time? Or even most of the time? Maybe just some of the time?

Speaking for myself, I'd say I'd keep such effort to a minimum. Not because I'm lazy, but because you hit on it in the next part of your reply.

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Well that is completely obvious in your example as no one in their right mind would say anything like that. It's simply too inefficient.
My point exactly. It's inefficient in terms of effort needed to decipher the message, in terms of time, and in terms of increasing the risk of miscommunication through a failure in translation/interpretation.

Granted, the example I created to prove my point is extreme, but it got my point across. You totally got what I was trying to illustrate.

Efficiency will always trump a ponderous, overly-wrought and over-complicated solution, in my opinion. For me, this will always be true in engineering and design, as well as in language and communications.

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What I was referring to more was the mnemonics or abbreviations that people have incorporated more and more, especially in written aspect. Half of the time when you ask them what it stands for, they don't know.
And I think it degrades the language, which in turn degrades the creative thought process and turns people in to imbeciles.
If you're referring to so-called "l33tspe@k" (or however it's supposed to spelled), or any other kind of internet-based "evolution" (a term I use very loosely here), then I heartily agree with you.

You have my permission to V-smack (virtually-smack) or e-smack (electronically-smack) me if I'm ever guilty of using this here on OCN.

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I think that one word here does not fit.
Really?

Do tell.

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Hi guys. I just finished a Win7 Ultimate X64 install and am still having issues. LOL Boy let me tell you if it ain't one thing it's another. I installed it on my sig rig and the text displayed on my TV is to small to read from where I sit " about 8-10 feet away from the TV" I have already selected largest text size from w/in the internet browser window but I'm thinking I need to strech the screen to a 16.9 and a smaller resolution than 1920x1080. If I select 1280x1024 I get a block in the middle of my screen w/two large portions of my screen black on both the left and right sides of the screen and I don't know enough about Win7 to stretch the screen.

Does any one know how to change this?

Edit: so far I am using the maginfying glass w/OCN page set to fixed view. This is the only way I can read the screen and still see what I'm typing on this web page. I have not tried other searches yet on google to see if it works the same there. It's just one of the many things that irritates me about Win7.
Other than sitting closer to the TV, I don't really know, to be perfectly honest. I think this is a case of the resolution not being optimized to render text on a screen that is 40", rather than (obviously) video signals (movies, games, etc.). (My apologies for not being able to offer more in terms of a solution.)

Can you reproduce this phenomenon on another monitor which displays @ 1920 x1080? I don't think this is a "fault" per se of Windows 7; it's more to do with the fact that you're using a TV to display text.

(Did you see this behavior on other OS installations? I would deduce probably not.)

Hopefully else someone can offer a more helpful solution.
    
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A piece of string? Are you speaking of the string theory?

So I got the DPI set to 165 and I can live w/it but I still have some nice realestate of blue on each side of the light blue OCN screens. maybe I'll try 175 and then set my window to wide view.
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Efficiency will always trump a ponderous, overly-wrought and over-complicated solution, in my opinion. For me, this will always be true in engineering and design, as well as in language and communications. (emphasis added)
I disagree. When writing a paper for a class with a minimum page count (like I am right now), pomp, bloated, and superfluous language is always best, well, at least, if you do not have enough actual content to pad the page count.

To Joe's post, infra: I used to know a quote about reading something and not understanding means it must have been written by a lawyer, but of course I cannot remember it now. In law schools they now actually teach you NOT to use "legalese," and I was always getting in trouble with my research and writing professor for that. Forget the fact I wrote for her class how I wrote for all classes ever.
     
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A piece of string? Are you speaking of the string theory?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8363934.stm


Edited by Hueristic - 12/15/09 at 6:56pm
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I disagree. When writing a paper for a class with a minimum page count (like I am right now), pomp, bloated, and superfluous language is always best, well, at least, if you do not have enough actual content to pad the page count.
Well, then, at least you understand why clear, efficient writing is not enough for you and the specific case you're alluding to. If there were no shortage of actual content, then there would be no need to use unnecessarily complex language to meet a minimum page count.

I understand that I'm stepping on your toes specifically a bit here, but "Legal-speak" is one of the worst offenders as far as the devolution of language (I'm supposing that what's true in English is also true in other languages that use some form of "Legal-speak"). Why not call a spade a spade? (A rhetorical question, just to be perfectly clear. But do think about it in the context of this admittedly off-topic discussion. )

Anyway, while this has been an invigorating philosophical discussion, I'm afraid I'm guilty of not setting a good example here. This isn't an appropriate place on OCN for this discussion. I don't want to be sanctioned by thlnk3r (and rightly so) for promoting an off-topic discussion.

(@ Blitzy: I try to live by the Einstein quote that you provided. )

(But if y'all want to continue this discussion, there are several ways we can do it, including, perhaps, opening a thread in the Off-Topic section.)

Anyway, @ N2G: Blitzy's advice regarding video drivers sounds like a good way forward. I'd start troubleshooting there.
    
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How long is a piece of string?
Infinite?

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More thought process, perhaps. But ask yourself this: Do you WANT to go through that kind of thought process, all the time? Or even most of the time? Maybe just some of the time?
I try to use more descriptive words, actually. Trying to be more efficient, but then the problem becomes other peoples' interpretation of the word or what they think it means, and what they usually think it means is usually wrong. Thus becoming more inefficient, but hopefully I would have educated a coworker so the next time I use said word, they will understand. My sneaky way of educating people.

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My point exactly. It's inefficient in terms of effort needed to decipher the message, in terms of time, and in terms of increasing the risk of miscommunication through a failure in translation/interpretation.
I found this passage to be quite humorous.
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Granted, the example I created to prove my point is extreme, but it got my point across. You totally got what I was trying to illustrate.

Efficiency will always trump a ponderous, overly-wrought and over-complicated solution, in my opinion. For me, this will always be true in engineering and design, as well as in language and communications.
Very true, you can always tell if the person writing the textbook just likes to hear themselves speak. They'll use words that are even uncommon to very well versed people. Some of my professors have done that as well. I think they're just being pompous and arrogant.


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If you're referring to so-called "l33tspe@k" (or however it's supposed to spelled), or any other kind of internet-based "evolution" (a term I use very loosely here), then I heartily agree with you.
I think it's because people text so much now. Quite honestly I hate texting, if someone texts me, I call em.


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Really?

Do tell.
Tis a matter of opinion, and you know what they say about those.
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Infinite?
Maybe,

The show I linked is a great example of attempting to speak in absolutes, as is what this discusion seems to be.

AFAIC T/f is the speed to measure computing power when apples are compared to apples. But very seldom do we compare those.
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