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post #21151 of 28692
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Originally Posted by BlackOmega View Post
Depends on what was damaged. That picture is too blurry to see what is exactly damaged.
And yes there was a guy that repaired his CPU after damaging the chip.
That's good to hear. I'm working on the better picture thing. I don't have a scanner or a good camera. Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to figure something out. It'd be great if someone could actually repair it for me.

EDIT: I have a circuit writer conductive pen and a magnifying glass, but I don't want to mess it up worse.
Edited by ny_driver - 12/27/09 at 10:04am
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thank you. Where can I find a list of overclockable stepping like that list for the opterons, but for the 4400+?

here is a picture of the deceased in case you want to look......http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4150/1226091748.jpg notice the little white speck in the black part under the adhesive. that's the fatal wound I believe.
ny_driver, since the Toledo chips (like your X2 4400+ and the X2 4800+) and the Denmark Opterons (dual-core Opterons) share the same specs as well as share the same stepping codes, I've long deduced that they are essentially identical except for the name they leave the factory with. Proof of this? I've personally owned both Opterons and Athlon64 X2 4400+s with the same stepping batch codes (CCBWE as well as LCB9E).

Therefore, you can reasonably expect the same rules apply to both Athlon64 X2 Toledo chips and the dual-core Denmark Opterons.

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post #21153 of 28692
so the 4400+ is basicly the exact same chip as the Opty 175 @ 2.2gHz.
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You're pretty much gonna wanna get the toledo core. I have a manchester and this thing doesn't really like overclocking. I'm trying to push it tho...
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so the 4400+ is basicly the exact same chip as the Opty 175 @ 2.2gHz.
That would be correct.
I have both, an X2 4200 and a few Optys with similar/same steppings. If you browse around, you'll see folks with chips that have identical steppings between the X2 Toledo cores, Opterons and San Diego cored chips. It's also been said the San Diego chips are nothing more than X2 chips with a dead/disabled core. All of these seem to be based on the same core type even though the core name is different, probrably as a designation towards it's intended stock useage and whether it's setup as a single core chip.

Simply put, X2 is a DC desktop chip, Opteron is a DC server chip and the San Diego is a single core desktop chip.
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so is the other 4400+ the toledo core, or are just opterons toledo core?? EDIT: what is difference between the 2 different 4400+'s? EDIT: I get it...the 4400+ is toledo core and the 4200+ is manchester right?
Edited by ny_driver - 12/27/09 at 11:15am
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so is the other 4400+ the toledo core, or are just opterons toledo core??
Most Optys are called "Denmark" and believe that's related to it's designation as a server chip from the factory. I've seen a few along the way with "Toledo" in the core name via CPU-Z screenshots so it's a good bet they are indeed the same basic chip. Only real difference I've noted is the wattage they are rated at, the Opty at 110W vs the X2 at 89W. The X2 tends to run cooler as a result of this.
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The 4400+ comes in both 110 W and 89 W version. As Kryton said, the 89 W version tends to run a little cooler. Furthermore, the 89 W version has a higher thermal limit, that is, 71º C instead of 65º C.
     
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buying a 4400+ used I have no way to tell what I am going to get. I think I may just stick with the Opteron seeing how they are basically the same and the Optys were hand picked as reliable for server use, according to what I read in this review. http://forums.legitreviews.com/about11064.html
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An ADV4400 is the 89 W version, the ADA4400 is the 110 W version. Provided it is not lapped, it would be really easy to tell which is which.
     
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