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By transistors, do you mean the little things that surround the core? If so I'm positive(almost) that I didn't touch them. I'll get the scanner image done as asap, then we can all see the damage and make a decision.
Yep, that's exactly what I mean. Other than those, there's not really a whole hell of a lot you can damage on it other than the pins and the printed circuit board (PCB) itself.
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I think all I did was scratch the black strip on the edge of the PCB under the adhesive trying to pry off the top like an idiot. It's probably worse than if I had just nicked the leg of a transistor. We'll see. might be a piece o' cake.
Edited by ny_driver - 1/21/10 at 9:19pm
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I believe mine is a 15 W iron, but the tip is rather large. I heard that you can wrap the iron in bare wire to provide yourself with a wire-thin tip, but I never tried. (Never had a need to.)
     
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Thanks for sharing your experience Kryton. The scanner it will be then. I can't see anything with a magnifying glass so I'm finding it hard to believe that I'll be able to see anything more with a scanner image. I'm basing that on nothing though, and definitely NOT calling you a liar .....I'm just the type of person that needs to see it to believe it.
OK - Here is an example I did with a Socket A chip I had questions about awhile back.
Turns out the chip isn't what it appears to be and it's dead too. The label is a fake so it's not a 2400 chip but didn't matter since it was dead anyway.
You can see the damage to the edge of the chip's core plainly along with other details.
Mind you the scanner used to make this pic is almost ten years old now, so most anything you'd use to scan yours with would be even better than this is.

Edited by Kryton - 1/21/10 at 11:11pm
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I think all I did was scratch the black strip on the edge of the PCB under the adhesive trying to pry off the top like an idiot. It's probably worse than if I had just nicked the leg of a transistor. We'll see. might be a piece o' cake.
Yeah you just gotta keep cutting until it almost lifts off on it's own. I think I went through 6 razors blades on my utility knife taking the one off of the 3500+. It took like 15-20 minutes IIRC.

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I believe mine is a 15 W iron, but the tip is rather large. I heard that you can wrap the iron in bare wire to provide yourself with a wire-thin tip, but I never tried. (Never had a need to.)
Mine has interchangeable tips but it's just too damn hot, 30w. That's why it was so easy to melt through the epoxy on my Ultra-D.
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OK - Here is an example I did with a Socket A chip I had questions about awhile back.
Turns out the chip isn't what it appears to be and it's dead too. The label is a fake so it's not a 2400 chip but didn't matter since it was dead anyway.
You can see the damage to the edge of the chip's core plainly along with other details.
Mind you the scanner used to make this pic is almost ten years old now, so most anything you'd use to scan yours with would be even better than this is.
Looks like the bottom right took some damage, at the top right edge, is that damage or fuzzy crap on the scanner?
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I'll get the scanner image done as asap, then we can all see the damage and make a decision.
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I've been lagging on getting the stuff to finish up the sli-dr, im sorry.
its not that i don't have time i have all the time in the world lol.
i just don't have my bike running at the moment and I've been stuck at home, and working only 1 day a week hasn't helped much either.
i might be able to get the materials this weekend. then i will have my father reball the board and chip,since he has steadier hands than i.
i say there's a 40% chance of this board living again
then i will pop in my 4000 and clock the hell out of it
post #21868 of 28751
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Originally Posted by Kryton View Post
OK - Here is an example I did with a Socket A chip I had questions about awhile back.
Turns out the chip isn't what it appears to be and it's dead too. The label is a fake so it's not a 2400 chip but didn't matter since it was dead anyway.
You can see the damage to the edge of the chip's core plainly along with other details.
Mind you the scanner used to make this pic is almost ten years old now, so most anything you'd use to scan yours with would be even better than this is.
I hope it looks brighter when I scan it or we wont be able to see very much.....I'll have to scan it a few times and make some adjustments I imagine.

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Yeah you just gotta keep cutting until it almost lifts off on it's own. I think I went through 6 razors blades on my utility knife taking the one off of the 3500+. It took like 15-20 minutes IIRC.
lol.....I used one of the standard razor blades that comes with the blade wrapped in cardboard and the back is nice to hold on to......took me about 1 minute(30 seconds really).....but I'm 99.9% sure I damaged it prior to involving the razor blade. Hopefully the image is at least as good as Krytons example.

EDIT: I'm not the brightest bulb sometimes...I was trying to pry it without cutting it at all or having read any instructions. definitely the stupidest PC thing I ever did.
Edited by ny_driver - 1/22/10 at 5:37am
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EDIT : problem solved(well, figured out anyways)....this mobo has a known "cold boot issue". I read about several others that had the same trouble. No big deal.....I can work with it.

ok here is todays annoying computer problem.......I have the system running fine and tested at the following settings...CPU 1.41v/250 FSB x 11/250MHz RAM 3-3-2-5-1T@2.8v....... if I shut the system down completely(not-restart) and then try to restart it won't post at those settings, however if I go to bios and set everything the same except lower the FSB to 245 it posts then if I immediately go back to bios and up it to 250 it posts and runs fine.
Any ideas why this would be, or has anyone ever experienced a similar situation?

to answer a couple possible questions you may ask me ahead of time.......the RAM passes memtest @ 260MHz...the cpu passes S&M although the max temp is a little high(67c)

thanks for taking the time to read my post one thing right after another....that's life I guess.
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ok here is todays annoying computer problem.......I have the system running fine and tested at the following settings...CPU 1.41v/250 FSB x 11/250MHz RAM 3-3-2-5-1T@2.8v....... if I shut the system down completely(not-restart) and then try to restart it won't post at those settings, however if I go to bios and set everything the same except lower the FSB to 245 it posts then if I immediately go back to bios and up it to 250 it posts and runs fine.
Any ideas why this would be, or has anyone ever experienced a similar situation?

to answer a couple possible questions you may ask me ahead of time.......the RAM passes memtest @ 260MHz...the cpu passes S&M although the max temp is a little high(67c)

thanks for taking the time to read my post one thing right after another....that's life I guess.
try bumping chipset voltage. Or use software OC when you get in Win.
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