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try bumping chipset voltage. Or use software OC when you get in Win.
the only voltage adjustments I have in bios are cpu, ram, and AGP voltage? you didn't mean AGP did you?
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Okkkkk
Running 8+ hrs of prime95
One core (worker 2) fail sat 7hrs n 59mins, I guess this is why you do 8+ hours.
I have no clue why.
It says I have a rounding error where it's .4995117788, expected less than .4

Could it have something to do with the fact that when I first did this I WAS on 32bit or maybe is it because I under volted it from regular 1.35 to 1.325
now i tried
increasing the voltage in the bios to 1.3375
run prime95
but
my computer now freezes after around an hour
any ideas?
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now i tried
increasing the voltage in the bios to 1.3375
run prime95
but
my computer now freezes after around an hour
any ideas?
try going a little higher and maybe try S&M for stress testing at 100% load/short duration, then you will know in about 5 minutes if it's unstable, I just recently learned of this tool and I like it because I hate sitting there waiting for prime.


And on a personal note I tried raising the agp voltage to 1.55 and 1.6 with no difference. But I have found that if I up the cpu voltage it posts 1st try @ those settings, but I don't want to up the cpu voltage anymore. It passes S&M at 1.42v why won't it postcomputers are CRAZY, I love em'....I'm going to test every voltage option available w/ a meter and make myself a Neo2 voltage chart. Someone has probably already done it because the voltages are whacked on this thing.
Edited by ny_driver - 1/22/10 at 8:11am
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try going a little higher and maybe try S&M for stress testing at 100% load/short duration, then you will know in about 5 minutes if it's unstable, I just recently learned of this tool and I like it because I hate sitting there waiting for prime.
which test is s&m?
i only see small, large, blend and custom
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try going a little higher and maybe try S&M for stress testing at 100% load/short duration, then you will know in about 5 minutes if it's unstable, I just recently learned of this tool and I like it because I hate sitting there waiting for prime.


And on a personal note I tried raising the agp voltage to 1.55 and 1.6 with no difference. But I have found that if I up the cpu voltage it posts 1st try @ those settings, but I don't want to up the cpu voltage anymore. It passes S&M at 1.42v why won't it postcomputers are CRAZY, I love em'....I'm going to test every voltage option available w/ a meter and make myself a Neo2 voltage chart. Someone has probably already done it because the voltages are whacked on this thing.
By raising you CPU voltage your applying more to the IMC. It would be better for temps if you could apply it at the chipset.
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which test is s&m?
i only see small, large, blend and custom
http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...e-tools-3.html you will find it in the 1st post of that thread...it's a seperate program, not part of prime.

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By raising you CPU voltage your applying more to the IMC. It would be better for temps if you could apply it at the chipset.
I know I don't want to raise the cpu voltage due to increased temperatures, but I was just testing to see what would happen. I don't see any adjustment for chipset voltage, only agp, dram, and cpu.
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I got 600 and 1000 grit wet\\dry sandpaper. I'm going to lap my HS and my cpu.
The before idle temps are 33/37.......will post after temps later.
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ok here is todays annoying computer problem.......I have the system running fine and tested at the following settings...CPU 1.41v/250 FSB x 11/250MHz RAM 3-3-2-5-1T@2.8v....... if I shut the system down completely(not-restart) and then try to restart it won't post at those settings, however if I go to bios and set everything the same except lower the FSB to 245 it posts then if I immediately go back to bios and up it to 250 it posts and runs fine.
Any ideas why this would be, or has anyone ever experienced a similar situation?

to answer a couple possible questions you may ask me ahead of time.......the RAM passes memtest @ 260MHz...the cpu passes S&M although the max temp is a little high(67c)

thanks for taking the time to read my post one thing right after another....that's life I guess.
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try bumping chipset voltage. Or use software OC when you get in Win.
^ This. Also replace the boards watch battery (battery # 2032). Typically if your board doesn't retain the settings then that battery is dead.

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the only voltage adjustments I have in bios are cpu, ram, and AGP voltage? you didn't mean AGP did you?
No, not AGP voltage. AGP voltage is for your video card. Raising this can damage your GPU.

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now i tried
increasing the voltage in the bios to 1.3375
run prime95
but
my computer now freezes after around an hour
any ideas?
Can you post a screen shot of your settings? Or just validate it and provide the link. (I'd actually prefer the validation; more info).
Also what are your temps like? Idle? Load? Ambient (room temperature)?

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Originally Posted by ny_driver View Post
try going a little higher and maybe try S&M for stress testing at 100% load/short duration, then you will know in about 5 minutes if it's unstable, I just recently learned of this tool and I like it because I hate sitting there waiting for prime.


And on a personal note I tried raising the agp voltage to 1.55 and 1.6 with no difference. But I have found that if I up the cpu voltage it posts 1st try @ those settings, but I don't want to up the cpu voltage anymore. It passes S&M at 1.42v why won't it postcomputers are CRAZY, I love em'....I'm going to test every voltage option available w/ a meter and make myself a Neo2 voltage chart. Someone has probably already done it because the voltages are whacked on this thing.
Just so you know, kind of how memtest stresses only the RAM, S&M stresses only the CPU. It does not test the system as a whole. While S&M is a great tool for CPU overclocking, it's hardly an indication of real stability.
Prime95 on the other hand tests the system as a whole. It utilizes the CPU and ram, thus stressing the IMC. This is where a lot of read/write errors, conflicts will occur. That's why it is probably the most important test to run.
However, P95 is not infallible. There's tons of threads on here that ring to the tune of "24 hour p95 stable yet crashes after 1 hour of gaming".

IMO, to really test a system S&M, P95 are only a part of the barrage of tests you can throw at it. I usually run 3Dmark06, Crysis benchmark looped for a while, FC2 benchmark looped etc.

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which test is s&m?
i only see small, large, blend and custom
You're looking at either Prime 95, Orthos or OCCT.

Look on the first page of this thread; towards the bottom of the first post. There'll be a link to a Russian website; scroll down to the S's and it should be the very first one.

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Originally Posted by ny_driver View Post
I got 600 and 1000 grit wet\\dry sandpaper. I'm going to lap my HS and my cpu.
The before idle temps are 33/37.......will post after temps later.
Be careful when lapping your heat sink. Those heat pipes are very thin from what I've seen/read.


EDIT: Almost forgot, the voltage setting you're looking for will either be called "Chipset Voltage" or "NB Votlage"; NB stands for North Bridge.
Edited by BlackOmega - 1/22/10 at 12:59pm
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Looks like the bottom right took some damage, at the top right edge, is that damage or fuzzy crap on the scanner?
Fuzzy crap.

Yeah, the core is damaged as you can see and it has another spot not too far from that point.

As stated, this scanner is old and a newer one would do much better and yes, you may need to do it a few times to get the best results with your adjustments so the fine details are plainly visible.
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What is the thickness of a 165 lid? anyone have one lying around and a micrometer? I'm thinking of cnc milling one of mine rather than removeing the entire lid. My Dad has a small 4 axis cnc.
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