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Originally Posted by Kryton View Post
New sticks won't hurt, that's for sure.

It's possible you've hit the limit of your system but don't stop tweaking. You may get 3.0 from it yet.

I assume temps are good enough when you have it that high. As long as CPU temps are below 50c, you're good and even at 55c, still OK but the cooler the better.
Another thing is excessive voltage will cause a spike in temps and also give no benefit. With yours, I'd start at 1.40v and tweak from there. Many Toledo chips will hit 3.0 with less than what I've suggested without a problem.

You'd probrably need more with the chip you have (Maybe) but go with what you need to keep temps manageable without cooking the chip for nothing. Simply cranking the volts way up isn't the best way to do it and you know what can happen once temps get too high. As you've probrably seen already,
once a chip reaches it's limit, no amount of voltage will help get it higher but I don't think you've hit that just yet.
Keep temps under control and use what's needed to get it done and no more is one of the keys to making it run - This is also valid for RAM and your chipsets too.
Kryton,

Not exactlly the 3.0 ghz mark I wanted, but the overall OC seems better, and the memory speed is fairly impressive in my opinion. 269mhz, 3-3-2-8-1T running on 2.9v. Temps are 34 idle but, 61 loaded. My ambient temps are 75-80 F, I burn wood for heat This does not help. This is prime stable either way.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=991651

I tried losening timings to 3-4-4-8, mem divider at ddr200, and volts cranked up as high as 1.49....still 2.9 was it for booting, 2.85 would run fine but prime would fail after less than an hour. I seem to be out of options, other than trying a better motherboard. This chip IMO has hit its limits. My goal now I think is to try and see if I can tighten the timings up some, better than the stock they are now at least. Your thoughts?
post #22032 of 28751
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Kryton,

Not exactlly the 3.0 ghz mark I wanted, but the overall OC seems better, and the memory speed is fairly impressive in my opinion. 269mhz, 3-3-2-8-1T running on 2.9v. Temps are 34 idle but, 61 loaded. My ambient temps are 75-80 F, I burn wood for heat This does not help. This is prime stable either way.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=991651

I tried losening timings to 3-4-4-8, mem divider at ddr200, and volts cranked up as high as 1.49....still 2.9 was it for booting, 2.85 would run fine but prime would fail after less than an hour. I seem to be out of options, other than trying a better motherboard. This chip IMO has hit its limits. My goal now I think is to try and see if I can tighten the timings up some, better than the stock they are now at least. Your thoughts?
Do you have any dividers above 200?....like 216, 233, or 250? I ask because you may be able to get a better OC with a lower FSB and higher multiplier. On my board 216=200, 233=219, and 250=241. Maybe look for a newer modded BIOS. I'm using 225 x 12 with a 233 divider, so my RAM is at 245...you follow me? You could use a 250 divider, run your chip at 230 x 12 and come out with 2760 MHz and RAM at 270 MHz still. Just an idea...........I just learned about using dividers above 200. Maybe try 3-4-4-10 or 11 to go higher on the RAM, but keep it at 1T.

EDIT: my bad....I assumed the 3800 went to 12x because my 3700 went to 11x...sorry.
Edited by ny_driver - 2/2/10 at 6:25am
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post #22033 of 28751
2.9V is the max i would recommend for bench sessions on the 1gb modules
here is a screen shot of my settings i used for 280mhz or ddr560.
see if that get you any higher

also at ~2.8Ghz that cpu would be just about maxed out without exotic cooling.


Edited by redhat_ownage - 2/2/10 at 2:56pm
post #22034 of 28751
Very nice OC Redhat.

Do you know of an all encompassing guide to memory timings and formula's to use when setting the more obscure timings (the ones you don't usually fiddle with)?

I'm thinking I could possibly get more out of my DDR3 and DDR modules if I just knew the formula.

Also just trying gauge interest: would anyone be interested in my Corsair XMS 1GB sticks (infineon BH-5 IC's)? I have 4 of them and I'm trying to decide what I should do with some of my 939 parts.
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Very nice OC Redhat.

Do you know of an all encompassing guide to memory timings and formula's to use when setting the more obscure timings (the ones you don't usually fiddle with)?

I'm thinking I could possibly get more out of my DDR3 and DDR modules if I just knew the formula.

Also just trying gauge interest: would anyone be interested in my Corsair XMS 1GB sticks (infineon BH-5 IC's)? I have 4 of them and I'm trying to decide what I should do with some of my 939 parts.
i wish i could point you to such a guide but i know of none. everything i know about timings on a64's has been accumulated over the last 10years of playing with computers.
from my experience ddr3 acts like ddr if you can clock ddr well ddr3 will be cake, ddr2 is wierd its stupid i dont like it, that being said i have gotten my gkx sticks to 1333mhz stable.
as for your infinion BE-5 i would love to get my hands on some more but funds are low this time of the year.
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Also just trying gauge interest: would anyone be interested in my Corsair XMS 1GB sticks (infineon BH-5 IC's)? I have 4 of them and I'm trying to decide what I should do with some of my 939 parts.
I might be interested. What kind of OC did you get out of them?
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I just let a fx53 pass me up on ebay, went for $45. I forgot about it and didn't bid
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^ Darn Menace . You'll find another one though!

Guys, quick question, after a not-so-quick story .
So I set up my old motherboard and ram with a new 3000+ I got. I installed Win7 (32) with it all stock, but then I overclocked the CPU to 2.4ghz. All seemed well after a few hours of stressing it, so I went for 300*9, and the PC posted, went to load the OS, and it froze with a giant logo of "7." I went to reboot, and the hard drive was corrupted. Not only that, but my USB keyboard stopped wasn't working, not even the LEDs on it were lit. I actually hurt my USB controller! After I got it into Win. Recovery with another keyboard (although only the F keys work on that due to spreading conductive glue between the plastic sheets ) the USB controller magically started working. It took my a while to actually go into the recovery thing. So after hours on recovery, it says it failed. I let it reboot and it boots into 7 fine .
My question is: Was the damage all temporary? Did I actually mess up the OS and recovery just lied to me?
I think its the motherboard that's holding me back from 300FSB, though I didn't have time to check anything between that and 267x9, so who knows.
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I might be interested. What kind of OC did you get out of them?
Believe it or not I never actually pushed them. I messed around with them a little once and got them to DDR450 @ 2.6v. I believe they're rated for 2.75v.
I never played with them more than that. They are very good sticks, I had to RMA one set 20 days after I had gotten them. The replacement kit has worked flawlessly for over a year.
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