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If anyone is curious about the fault tolerances of RAID 10 and RAID 5, I just recently computed them in my thread. For your convenience:
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Originally Posted by Blitz6804 View Post
Yeah, the idea of quadrupling my fault rate without adjusting my fault tolerance did not really appeal to me. Would I like the speed? Sure. Do I think it is worth the risk? Maybe not.

To demonstrate, let me assume that the average hard drive has a 2% chance of failure within five years.

For a RAID 0 to die, any of the four drives may die. Since each has a 2% failure rate:

P(d0) \\/ P(d1) \\/ P(d2) \\/ P(d3) = 0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02 = 0.08 = 8%

For a RAID 10 to die, you need to kill two drives of the same mirror. Killing one drive off each mirror will not kill the RAID. So if drive a0 dies, a1 must also die; losing b0 or b1 will not do it. With each having a 2% failure rate:

(P(a0) /\\ P(a1)) \\/ (P(b0) /\\ P(b1)) = (0.02 * 0.02) + (0.02 * 0.02) = 0.0004 + 0.0004 = 0.0008 = 0.08%

As I was also considering RAID 5 for a while, as it has 50% more storage than RAID 10, so I will discuss that now; I ultimately decided against it due to the CPU overhead since I cannot (at this time) afford a PERC card as Tator Tot suggests I get. To kill a RAID 5 array, you must kill any two drives you want. Keeping that same 2% failure rate:

(P(d0) /\\ (P(d1) \\/ P(d2) \\/ P(d3)) \\/ (P(d1) /\\ (P(d2) \\/ P(d3)) \\/ (P(d2) \\/ P(d3)) = (0.02 * (0.02 + 0.02 + 0.02)) + (0.02 * (0.02 + 0.02)) + (0.02 * 0.02) = (0.02 * 0.06) + (0.02 * 0.04) + (0.02 * 0.02) = 0.02 * (0.06 + 0.04 + 0.02) = 0.02 * 0.12 = 0.0024 = 0.24%

In summation:

RAID 0:
  • 8% failure rate
  • four times greater than a single drive
  • Capacity = 4 TB
  • Fastest of the three
RAID 5:
  • 0.24% failure rate
  • eight-and-a-third times less than a single drive
  • Capacity = 3 TB
  • Slowest of the three without a dedicated card
RAID 10:
  • 0.08% failure rate
  • twenty-five times less than a single drive
  • one-hundred times less than RAID 0
  • three times less than RAID 5
  • Capacity = 2 TB
  • Faster than a single drive, slower than RAID 0
Sure, I have a lot of missing capacity with RAID 10, but since I am going to partition such that I am only using about 600-700 GiB, what does it matter?
     
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Probably will never touch RAID 0 unless I build a rig dedicated solely to gaming.

RAID that actually has some redundancy is definitely on my list. My main rig should be good for another year at least, so the next upgrade will probably be a RAID card and new drives. Or just get an SSD.

BTW. Grid tonight?
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I dunno if we are doing anything tonight. Interesting to note that Joe has been more frequent as of late, and as it so happens, Pio, ny_driver, and I all were doing RACE07 last night.
     
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I'll play Race 07' if you guys want to get together. Let's run some F1 cars......ohh I think they are all BMWs in Race 07' though. Blitz would go crazy if everyone has the same cars.
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Same cars are fine, just stop picking similar colors! I think I am going to make it a rule with GRID that you MUST have a custom livery to play in my server. Granted, GRID is better than RACE07 in that names appear over the cars, so at least as I get closer I can see who it is.
     
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^ Green&Purple liveries FTW. I think I also made a blue/gold one and probably some even ricier blue+orange.
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when you lap the cpu is it normal for the corners to like get be getting lapped?
i feel that the corners arent uh getting sanded
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitz6804 View Post
You ever get GRID nate? Wanna get in on this?
I got it a long time ago (when it was still new ). Its too late for me though. I'm an early bird.
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I forgot to mention....

Burny v1.1 is ALIVE AGAIN!!!

Turns out just the Apevia PSU died. Got an Antec EA650 from Pez in yesterday, and my rig's been running strong since then. 12v rail drops to ~11.90v.

And Antec approved the RMA for my TP3 650 as well. So I'll be shipping that off as soon as I can afford it .
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