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Well linpack might be good for intel CPUs', but definitely not for AMD's. Blitz ran 500 passes @ max in LinX (~18 hours IIRC), and his rig BSOD'd within minutes of running F@H.
Exactly; 500 passes was about 18.5 hours and F@H killed it in minutes. However, temps were higher in LinX than in double Prime95 (by 4º C) and hotter than 4x CPU + 2x GPU F@H (by 13º C). That said, if I want to find my rig's maximum temperature, it is better to run this test twice (remember to clear your systray, kill sidebar, and disable Aero in Windows NT 6.0 or newer):



It pushes the rig another degree hotter than LinX, and you hit your max temp in 35-45 minutes. (LinX hit its max after about 5-6 hours since it keeps cycling on/off.)
     
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Hello all!
i have just received a new motherboard-BIOSTAR TForce6100-939 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard .
well i traded it for a CM V8 HSF.
i have 1.5 gigs ddr400 (2x512mb & 2x256mb) but plan on getting 4x1gig in the near future.
i have a 3870 for now.
i would like to know what is the best CPU that i should run in it? $100 max.
i didn't own a 939 system, so i am not sure about them.
i have done a little research and found that the FX series is the best? but expensive?
i want to run XP and play all my old games on it with a huge CRT monitor-old school style.


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Hello all!
i have just received a new motherboard-BIOSTAR TForce6100-939 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard .
well i traded it for a CM V8 HSF.
i have 1.5 gigs ddr400 (2x512mb & 2x256mb) but plan on getting 4x1gig in the near future.
i have a 3870 for now.
i would like to know what is the best CPU that i should run in it? $100 max.
i didn't own a 939 system, so i am not sure about them.
i have done a little research and found that the FX series is the best? but expensive?
i want to run XP and play all my old games on it with a huge CRT monitor-old school style.


-dimwit-
Hey dimwit,
Ok lets address your issues, in order to run xp you don't need 4gb of ram. Remember that XP can only handle a total of 4gb of total system memory, so that includes your gpus' and anything else that might have onboard memory. Aside from that, there is almost no noticeable difference in performance from 2 to 4 gb's with xp. 2gb is plenty, not to mention when you run 4DIMMs [sticks of ram] the memory will run in 2T mode and will be slower than only running 2 sticks, which will run in 1T.

Now on to the cpus', you are correct that the FX series are pretty much the best 939's out there. However, there are several other 939 cpus' that are also very good, such as the opteron series. They're server cpus' so most boards wont officially support them, however, I have yet to see a board that they wouldn't work on.

If you're planning on overclocking get an opteron 170. From what I have seen, they're pretty much the easiest to get to 3.0.
If you're not going to OC or your board doesn't support OCing, then an opteron 185 would be your best bet since it's the highest clocked 939 opteron @ 2.6 x2. Which matches the FX60, the only noticeable difference between the 2 is that the FX has an unlocked multiplier. However, the FX60's still go for a lot.

Note: 939's are 90nm so if you're planning on ocing, good cooling is a must. However, the stock opteron cooler, which has 4 heatpipes, is decent enough for at least a few hundred MHz, and if you put a crazy fan, like a tornado, on there, you should be able to keep it really cool. However, those little suckers are loud.
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Hey dimwit,
Ok lets address your issues, in order to run xp you don't need 4gb of ram. Remember that XP can only handle a total of 4gb of total system memory, so that includes your gpus' and anything else that might have onboard memory. Aside from that, there is almost no noticeable difference in performance from 2 to 4 gb's with xp. 2gb is plenty, not to mention when you run 4DIMMs [sticks of ram] the memory will run in 2T mode and will be slower than only running 2 sticks, which will run in 1T.

Now on to the cpus', you are correct that the FX series are pretty much the best 939's out there. However, there are several other 939 cpus' that are also very good, such as the opteron series. They're server cpus' so most boards wont officially support them, however, I have yet to see a board that they wouldn't work on.

If you're planning on overclocking get an opteron 170. From what I have seen, they're pretty much the easiest to get to 3.0.
If you're not going to OC or your board doesn't support OCing, then an opteron 185 would be your best bet since it's the highest clocked 939 opteron @ 2.6 x2. Which matches the FX60, the only noticeable difference between the 2 is that the FX has an unlocked multiplier. However, the FX60's still go for a lot.

Note: 939's are 90nm so if you're planning on ocing, good cooling is a must. However, the stock opteron cooler, which has 4 heatpipes, is decent enough for at least a few hundred MHz, and if you put a crazy fan, like a tornado, on there, you should be able to keep it really cool. However, those little suckers are loud.
Thanks
so 2x1gig dimms will be good enough?! (good cheaper)

i did a quick search and didnt find many opterons, and the ones i did fine were over my $100 budget. (i will do a better search later)
if for some reason i cant find a FX or opteron for under $100, is there another cpu that you could recomend? (athlon 64 x2 4800+?)

my motherboard supports overclocking, so i do plan on overclocking and plan on making sure the temps are under control.


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so 2x1gig dimms will be good enough?! (good cheaper)

i did a quick search and didnt find many opterons, and the ones i did fine were over my $100 budget. (i will do a better search later)
if for some reason i cant find a FX or opteron for under $100, is there another cpu that you could recomend? (athlon 64 x2 4800+?)

my motherboard supports overclocking, so i do plan on overclocking and plan on making sure the temps are under control.


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Yep, 2gb for xp is plenty, try to get some good sticks if you can, like the Corsair XMS's, but even some of the budget Corsair sticks work well also.

As for cpus', well you've just got to be patient, there are good deals to be had.
But a good dual core alternative would be a 4400+, or a 4800+ since they have 2 x 1mb l2 cache. Avoid the 4600+ [depending on codename] since it only has 2 x 512 L2.
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An Athlon64 x2 4800+ = Opteron 180. It is a 12x multiplier by default. In my mind, the "ideal" overclock is 12x250 with 1:1 memory, id est, 3.0 GHz and DDR-500.

Personally, I preferred having 4 GB in XP to having 2 GB. However, that is mere preference, and XP is only marginally faster with that extra 2 GB. When it comes to Vista, 4 GB is pretty much required, as the system is usually sluggish with 2 GB. Windows 7 is somewhere between the two, with the effect more noticeable than with XP, but less than that of Vista.
     
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hows this one.
Dual Core Opteron 170 CCBBE 0615EPMW Socket 939
and this-
Corsair XMS DDR 400 Platinum CL2 2GB - CMX1024-3200C2PT
How are these prices?
they are both from the same person, maybe make him an offer?


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I had 2 Opteron 180s with the same exact stepping(CCBBE0615EPMW) and they ran stable at 2.7 and 2.8Ghz. Didn't get very hot. Looks like a pretty good buy on the cpu, but the memory is a little high IMO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-2-x-1GB-OCZ-...item3caed79a74

http://cgi.ebay.com/2x1GB-G-Skill-Du...item2c558c1bfd

I'd recommend these if you could get them for less. I have a set of the OCZ Platinum exactly like those and they do DDR500 no problem.
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I had 2 Opteron 180s with the same exact stepping(CCBBE0615EPMW) and they ran stable at 2.7 and 2.8Ghz. Didn't get very hot. Looks like a pretty good buy on the cpu, but the memory is a little high IMO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-2-x-1GB-OCZ-...item3caed79a74

http://cgi.ebay.com/2x1GB-G-Skill-Du...item2c558c1bfd

I'd recommend these if you could get them for less. I have a set of the OCZ Platinum exactly like those and they do DDR500 no problem.
this was the first ones i came across and was curious about prices.


i just started looking-i havent even looked here yet-
i will do more searching and let you guys know what i find, then i will se which is the best price/performance.

thanks for the help

-dimwit-
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@Dimwit:
If you CANNOT find an Opteron (CCBBE / LCBxE (x being Q or 9)), then I would search for an X2 Toledo core. Avoid the Manchester cores like the plague.

Corsair XMS RAM is by far some of the best I've ever ran. I had OCZ Platinum's, I hated them. My XMS sticks hit DDR533 stable (only 2 sticks, any 2 though).
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