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post #2421 of 28706
thanks for all the info blitz I'm learning a lot from you.
post #2422 of 28706
ive had my fx-60 at 70C before. (airflow problems in rocketfish full tower case). i believe fx series can handle semi high temps. but its not recommended to keep them that high.

i think im runnin 1.45 or so volts on the fx-60 with barely a 200mhz overclock from stock. must just be my chip. ive heard its easy to get to 3.0 on the fx-60. *shrugs*.
 
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According to AMD, an 'ideal' load temperature would be 49º C and the max load temperature should not exceed 65º C. This is true for all 110 W processors. The 89 W jobs, of which the FX-60 is not, are 71º C max temps.

It is also interesting to note that they recommend 1.30 or 1.35 V. In theory, since P = I·V, and I (current) is constant, lower voltages (and consequently, lower wattages) would permit higher temperatures.

Given that P = I·V, I = P / V = 110 W / 1.35 V = 81.5 A.

To get to the 89 W version, P = I·V, V = P / I = 89 W / 81.5 A = 1.10 V.

So in theory, an FX-60 when CnQ is enabled has the same max temperature as a Toledo X2 4400+ under load.

This is just a theory, please do not test it.
     
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ok mr scientist. shoo.. *scoots him away with a broom*
 
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Dont shoooo him away , HE KNOWS what hes talking about ..Calm down and let him help this guy
    
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*throws a lasso and pulls him back* no more physics talk tho =P

hi boonie2 how are you doing
 
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Interesting, detailed theory, Sub-Zero. It echoes what some professional pundits have said about the suitability of lower voltage/wattage parts for OCers.

In practice, though, I've found that the few 89W Toledos I've played with were really stubborn. The one that stands out is the X2 4400+ (my first dual-core) which is now in my dad's PC. The highest I got from that chip was a semi-stable (i.e., Orthos stable for 8 Hrs on Priority 1 -- I was a bigger noob back then) 2.695GHz (11*245MHz), @ 1.5ishV VCore (I don't quite remember the precise figure, but it was definitely above 1.475V). It was loading at around mid-60s degrees C, as I recall.

Stubborn little creature, for sure...
    
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*rolls around for two hours until results are released*
 
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post #2429 of 28706
Are you sure it was an 89W Toledo? The X2 4400+ ran in both flavors: 89 W and 110 W.

As we know from experience, I am running 2750 MHz (11*250 MHz) at 1.328 V and loads below 56º C in anything except S&M. If I had a 110 W version, I am sure I would be incapable of the low temperatures and stock voltage for that speed.

And also, for the record, the complex just turned on the compressors today, so I should be holding a stable 20º C ambient for the next few months which certainly helps things. My core temps are down to 29º C as of me writing this oppose of the 39º C I had yesterday. (Running AIM, WLM, YIM, ICQ, gTalk, Fx, WMP, CnQ)

*Is sitting on pins and needles waiting on DanDaManZ06 to come back* Come on buddy, lets get some figures!
     
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Are you sure it was an 89W Toledo? The X2 4400+ ran in both flavors: 89 W and 110 W.

As we know from experience, I am running 2750 MHz (11*250 MHz) at 1.328 V and loads below 56º C in anything except S&M. If I had a 110 W version, I am sure I would be incapable of the low temperatures and stock voltage for that speed.
Absolutely positive.

But here's a piece of information that I did not disclose earlier: That X2 4400+ 89W carried that dog of an IMC, the BW version (it's a dreaded CCBWE).

Goes to show there are lots of things that could scupper even the most ambitious overclocks and overclockers out there.
    
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