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Keep it civil guys or I will have to start handing out infractions.
Sam, you are more than welcome to join the 939 club, just post a CPUz validation with your user name as the one that submitted it. If you want to show 3DMark scores, then please show the score with CPUz (two tabs one showing CPU one showing memory), and a GPUz tab showing the GPU, along with your score. The validation screens honestly mean nothing, since you didn't even use a screenname on it, and it shows your processor clock to be at 0MHz.

What?

I'll upload my cpuz.

My 3Dmark06 score was legit. The software didnt post my clock on the website.. not my fault since this is a known issue. Unlike the 14k the other person posted, mine was confirmed and legit through 3dmark.

If you want to be technical.. only other benchmark I saw was not legit, and the other was a screenshot only.

Askin me why 3dmark06 didnt post my core speed is like saying all CPU-z must show vcore..


By the way.. my username is on the results.. we proved that a couple pages back. I even told you that in the email...



I dont know why you would say my score means nothing.. when your friend posted a score 3dmark wont even accept.

"Your result has the following problem(s) and will not be shown for example on leaderboards: • Processor is not recognized (What is this?)
• Graphics driver is not approved (What is this?)"

"shooting down any benchmarks that proved against you"

I didnt shoot it down.. 3dmark did.
Edited by samshnne - 5/21/12 at 9:45pm
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Thread cleaned.....
Keep it civil guys or I will have to start handing out infractions.
Sam, you are more than welcome to join the 939 club, just post a CPUz validation with your user name as the one that submitted it. If you want to show 3DMark scores, then please show the score with CPUz (two tabs one showing CPU one showing memory), and a GPUz tab showing the GPU, along with your score. The validation screens honestly mean nothing, since you didn't even use a screenname on it, and it shows your processor clock to be at 0MHz.

What?

I'll upload my cpuz.

My 3Dmark06 score was legit. The software didnt post my clock on the website.. not my fault since this is a known issue. Unlike the 14k the other person posted, mine was confirmed and legit through 3dmark.

If you want to be technical.. only other benchmark I saw was not legit, and the other was a screenshot only.

Askin me why 3dmark06 didnt post my core speed is like saying all CPU-z must show vcore..


By the way.. my username is on the results.. we proved that a couple pages back. I even told you that in the email...

Please, just try to keep things civil. That goes to everybody here. ninja.gif

I would like you to know though, that most of us here usually only posted screenshots of 06. If I still had that machine I would absolutely be MORE than happy to have a bench off with you. I really would. I love that sort of thing. Closest thing I have though is an x2 6000 on AM2, so that's not quite the same.

But when we used to hold competitions here for overclocking and 3DMark runs and stuff, we always required a screenshot, as a screenshot can show a LOT more than the link can. Since with a screenshot, you can catch CPUz memory, CPUz CPU, GPUz, OCN user name, the score....everything. It's a lot more handy than giving a link that shows the overall score and none of the settings used to get that score. So that's why the only results I have are screenshots....because that's what we used when we held competitions.
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Also, please remember that Socket 939 is legacy hardware these days. Not all of us still own the equipment, but that doesn't mean that we don't have extensive knowledge of it. I ran my Opty rig from 2006 or so, till 2011. So some of us don't really own the equipment anymore, but that doesn't mean we didn't spend years with it and fine tuning. I personally had probably 30 Socket 939 boards pass through my hands and at LEAST that many chips.

Totally understandable. Which is why I had to post on here.

I see all these claims with no proof. Overclocks so high, newer members feel overwhelmed with the high overclock suggestions and false stories.

When I was here years ago asking for 3dmark06 results, I got the same stories and run around.

I really think the honest benchmarks, systems, and results should be preserved with proof and not exaggerated with nonsense claims that make people feel inferior.

That'd be like me saying I got my old pentium 1 to 5ghz.. but since its dead, I cant prove it. So let me attack you for calling me out on a thread of friends.
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What?
I'll upload my cpuz.

My 3Dmark06 score was legit. The software didnt post my clock on the website.. not my fault since this is a known issue. Unlike the 14k the other person posted, mine was confirmed and legit through 3dmark.
If you want to be technical.. only other benchmark I saw was not legit, and the other was a screenshot only.
Askin me why 3dmark06 didnt post my core speed is like saying all CPU-z must show vcore..
By the way.. my username is on the results.. we proved that a couple pages back. I even told you that in the email...
I dont know why you would say my score means nothing.. when your friend posted a score 3dmark wont even accept.
"Your result has the following problem(s) and will not be shown for example on leaderboards: • Processor is not recognized (What is this?)
• Graphics driver is not approved (What is this?)"
"shooting down any benchmarks that proved against you"
I didnt shoot it down.. 3dmark did.

Gotta go with you on that.
Had alot of the same stuff happen when I did some 3D runs earlier (A few months ago) and it also showed 0 MHz, ect and the drivers used were part of the issue, my problem in particular was it said "Drivers not recognized" or something like that.
Something we've all gotta deal with regardless. redface.gif
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Also, please remember that Socket 939 is legacy hardware these days. Not all of us still own the equipment, but that doesn't mean that we don't have extensive knowledge of it. I ran my Opty rig from 2006 or so, till 2011. So some of us don't really own the equipment anymore, but that doesn't mean we didn't spend years with it and fine tuning. I personally had probably 30 Socket 939 boards pass through my hands and at LEAST that many chips.

Totally understandable. Which is why I had to post on here.

I see all these claims with no proof. Overclocks so high, newer members feel overwhelmed with the high overclock suggestions and false stories.

When I was here years ago asking for 3dmark06 results, I got the same stories and run around.

I really think the honest benchmarks, systems, and results should be preserved with proof and not exaggerated with nonsense claims that make people feel inferior.

That'd be like me saying I got my old pentium 1 to 5ghz.. but since its dead, I cant prove it. So let me attack you for calling me out on a thread of friends.

Some people have great chips, like my Opty was. Some people, like ny and Kryton...they use, lets put this nicely, "exotic" cooling methods to get benchmark results. So their results honestly aren't out of the norm, I've seen them myself years ago. If I knew where the thread ended up from our last competition I would gladly link it to you to show you that they're not lying. They're just not mentioning what cooling methods they used.....

To be perfectly hoenst, with my experience (on air), most Toledo / Denmark dual cores could pull off somewhere between 2.8-3.0GHz stable (some more, some less). Most Manchester duallies pulled 2.4-2.6GHz or so. The single cores I honestly never paid attention to, but my Winchesters all did 2.5-2.6.

But that doesn't mean that when they were kept COLD that they couldn't go higher. My original Manny could do 2.5GHz stable (prime95 for 24 hours) using 1.50v (remember that max safe is 1.65v for these chips). However when I gave it chilled air, I got it up to 2.80GHz prime stable, and 3.05GHz suicide run stable. That again, goes to show you what temperatures can do to it.
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Some people have great chips, like my Opty was. Some people, like ny and Kryton...they use, lets put this nicely, "exotic" cooling methods to get benchmark results. So their results honestly aren't out of the norm, I've seen them myself years ago. If I knew where the thread ended up from our last competition I would gladly link it to you to show you that they're not lying. They're just not mentioning what cooling methods they used.....
To be perfectly hoenst, with my experience (on air), most Toledo / Denmark dual cores could pull off somewhere between 2.8-3.0GHz stable (some more, some less). Most Manchester duallies pulled 2.4-2.6GHz or so. The single cores I honestly never paid attention to, but my Winchesters all did 2.5-2.6.
But that doesn't mean that when they were kept COLD that they couldn't go higher. My original Manny could do 2.5GHz stable (prime95 for 24 hours) using 1.50v (remember that max safe is 1.65v for these chips). However when I gave it chilled air, I got it up to 2.80GHz prime stable, and 3.05GHz suicide run stable. That again, goes to show you what temperatures can do to it.

Actually every 939 result I've ever posted up was on H2O but it was COLD H2O as in iced down. biggrin.gif:D

I've yet to go further with better cooling methods for a 939 but I will give it a shot one day.
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Some people have great chips, like my Opty was. Some people, like ny and Kryton...they use, lets put this nicely, "exotic" cooling methods to get benchmark results. So their results honestly aren't out of the norm, I've seen them myself years ago. If I knew where the thread ended up from our last competition I would gladly link it to you to show you that they're not lying. They're just not mentioning what cooling methods they used.....
To be perfectly hoenst, with my experience (on air), most Toledo / Denmark dual cores could pull off somewhere between 2.8-3.0GHz stable (some more, some less). Most Manchester duallies pulled 2.4-2.6GHz or so. The single cores I honestly never paid attention to, but my Winchesters all did 2.5-2.6.
But that doesn't mean that when they were kept COLD that they couldn't go higher. My original Manny could do 2.5GHz stable (prime95 for 24 hours) using 1.50v (remember that max safe is 1.65v for these chips). However when I gave it chilled air, I got it up to 2.80GHz prime stable, and 3.05GHz suicide run stable. That again, goes to show you what temperatures can do to it.

Actually every 939 result I've ever posted up was on H2O but it was COLD H2O as in iced down. biggrin.gif:D

I've yet to go further with better cooling methods for a 939 but I will give it a shot one day.

Yeah, all of my results were on my Xigmatek S1283, usually room temp, and usually 24/7 stable prime. I don't like benching often with suicide clocks. I got my 3.37GHz CPUz validation with chilled air though (-12*F ambients).
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Some people have great chips, like my Opty was. Some people, like ny and Kryton...they use, lets put this nicely, "exotic" cooling methods to get benchmark results. So their results honestly aren't out of the norm, I've seen them myself years ago. If I knew where the thread ended up from our last competition I would gladly link it to you to show you that they're not lying. They're just not mentioning what cooling methods they used.....
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But that doesn't mean that when they were kept COLD that they couldn't go higher. My original Manny could do 2.5GHz stable (prime95 for 24 hours) using 1.50v (remember that max safe is 1.65v for these chips). However when I gave it chilled air, I got it up to 2.80GHz prime stable, and 3.05GHz suicide run stable. That again, goes to show you what temperatures can do to it.


Holy crap.. 1.65v?

I found out I was running mine at 1.375@2.75ghz.

Lower the multi to 11x, set fsb to 250.

500mhz ram
2.75ghz cpu
sli 8800gt

I was getting 3ghz on 1.47v.. wonder what my boot limit is
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Tried it again..... mild overclock , room for improvement 3dmark.com/3dm06/16677346
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Some people have great chips, like my Opty was. Some people, like ny and Kryton...they use, lets put this nicely, "exotic" cooling methods to get benchmark results. So their results honestly aren't out of the norm, I've seen them myself years ago. If I knew where the thread ended up from our last competition I would gladly link it to you to show you that they're not lying. They're just not mentioning what cooling methods they used.....
To be perfectly hoenst, with my experience (on air), most Toledo / Denmark dual cores could pull off somewhere between 2.8-3.0GHz stable (some more, some less). Most Manchester duallies pulled 2.4-2.6GHz or so. The single cores I honestly never paid attention to, but my Winchesters all did 2.5-2.6.
But that doesn't mean that when they were kept COLD that they couldn't go higher. My original Manny could do 2.5GHz stable (prime95 for 24 hours) using 1.50v (remember that max safe is 1.65v for these chips). However when I gave it chilled air, I got it up to 2.80GHz prime stable, and 3.05GHz suicide run stable. That again, goes to show you what temperatures can do to it.


Holy crap.. 1.65v?

I found out I was running mine at 1.375@2.75ghz.

Lower the multi to 11x, set fsb to 250.

500mhz ram
2.75ghz cpu
sli 8800gt

I was getting 3ghz on 1.47v.. wonder what my boot limit is

If you check out the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_939

Socket 939 has STOCK voltages up to 1.55v. So yeah, overclocked up to 1.65v was considered "safe". The biggest thing was keeping it cool at those volts. The cooler you can keep it, the further it'll scale usually. Also, what I personally noticed was that with a higher FSB speed, even with the same (or close) RAM speed, and the same CPU speed, it was actually benching higher. Still not entirely sure why....but that's what I had experienced with mine.
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