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11/10/12 at 12:01pm
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post #25532 of 26118
11/10/12 at 9:06pm
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So I am kinda bummed. the SLI-DR has a bulging cap. I couldn't get to post at anything more than 300 fsb and gave the board a better look over and there is a cap near the socket thats bulging. Can the board still be used safely? Should I try to replace the cap? I've never done any actual work on a board before, so it may be that its not worth potentially killing the board altogether. Also this is the pickiest board ever! I swear if it gets out of whack at all I have to do a serious hard cmos reset. And i still cant get it to post with my hd 6450, well i take that back it posted once, but then kept crashing trying to load windows at all stock settings, then wouldn'y post again. Still though even if im capped at about 300 fsb thats WAY better than the 240 i was stuck with.

1: Get that cap replaced - It will cause problems before long.
Replacing caps isn't hard to do but if you do it yourself be aware that the cap goes into the board one way, installed backwards isn't good for it. You wil see a black/white reference on the board where it goes related to the stripe on the cap itself, just set the new one in the same way the old one comes out. Also be sure to get the correct/matching cap when you get one.

2: It's a DFI so it gonna be peculiar. Like a F1 Formula car, it's gotta be tuned just right but once it is, look out.
DFI's can be and are some of the pickiest boards you'll ever run across but you also get the performance from your tuning efforts. BTW if you run into problems booting, sometimes you can set the BIOS to default settings first, then do your tweaks to recover. You'll probrably have to reboot before tweaking but that normally works. Also don't feel too bad, I have a LanParty D that hates anything above 265 or so, seems to top out there and so far it hasn't gone any higher. No bad caps or anything, it's just a really cranky board.
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11/11/12 at 8:18am
Well I may see if I can find a replacement cap or a local place that will fix a cap for me. Its just the one and its not super bad yet, but with as hard as I plan pushing this thing I can foresee issues developing.

Also I popped out the Opty 165 that came with it and put my 4200 x2 manny back in and got some good results so far. If anyone wants to update my entry on the front page here's the validation smile.gif http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2578968 The volts are a bit high at 1.55 and probably the max I can use on the air cooling I have. I'm getting about 63 or 64C when stress testing, so I doubt I can raise it anymore and still keep it cool. Though I am on a relatively small heatsink, so if I upgrade to a better one I may get some more headroom. Looks like I have a good manny though to get it over 2.6 smile.gif It feels like it has a lot more to give as well. Weren't they known for topping out at about 2.6?

I'm also wondering if the opty that came with the SLI-DR was abused. It could get up to about 2.6 with 2 gigs of RAM, but when I put in 4 I had a heck of a time getting it stable at any more than 2.2 or so. Oh well I always have that other CCBBE 165 I can try out. biggrin.gif Maybe when my MX-4 gets here I'll swap it in and see how it does.
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11/11/12 at 9:08am
2 sticks will always clock better than 4 will, mainly it's due to the strain on the chip's memory controller trying to manage 4 sticks vs 2 when OC'ing. If going for max clocks, 2 sticks always wins vs 4.

I'm not clear on the Mannys since I've never had one but I know they don't clock as well as the Optys did overall. The Opty you mentioned (CCBBE) should be a decent to good one, that stepping is fairly good. As for the one that came with board, I suppose it's possible it could have been abused but Opty's were made for surviving harsh conditions being these are server chips.
BTW, what stepping and date is that one?

Don't toss that chip - Socket 939 Opty chips are what alot of folks are looking for and you have 2 of them. As for what's holding them back, you'd need a strong FSB clocking board to get the most from it with it's max multi of 9x.
I have a 165, 175 and 180 here and you'd think the 180 would be the strongest one I'd have but that's not the case here - The 175 is the best of the three.

If you were to find one with a higher max multi such as a 170 or higher model, that will help to offset the board's inability to clock the bus up and give you better CPU speed overall. That's why I have only one 165 and got the rest as higher models when I purchased them new back in the day.
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11/11/12 at 10:59am
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BTW, what stepping and date is that one?
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Its a LCBQE 0722 I believe. So it ought to be good, but I haven't tried seeing if it was just the board fsb limit causing my issues or the chip. Also my windows install went junky on me, so I've reinstalled since then. Its possible that it would be more stable now that I have windows working better. The weird thing is that whenever i tried any volts above say 1.35 I couldn't get it to boot (of course this was also at 270 or higher fsb that i started messing with volts. It didn't need any extra at lower fsb), and with this manny I'm obviously way more than that. thinking.gif Well, I can always test it again later. I'm waiting on my new thermal grease to get here. I'm just about out of the stuff that coolermaster sent with my heatsink, so I can't switch too much until i get the new stuff (which ought to be better for temps anyways.
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11/11/12 at 6:26pm
LCBQE is the best stepping you can get with those and the chip's date is about as good as it gets too. All of my Opty's are LCB9E chips and wish I had one of those like yours. The stepping I have is good also but that one is the best of the bunch.
If the chip isn't a dud, should be a really good clocker - Provided the board will let it fly.
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LCBQE is the best stepping you can get with those and the chip's date is about as good as it gets too. All of my Opty's are LCB9E chips and wish I had one of those like yours. The stepping I have is good also but that one is the best of the bunch.
If the chip isn't a dud, should be a really good clocker - Provided the board will let it fly.

I thought CCBBE held most of the records.
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11/12/12 at 6:11am
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the power supply that I had for the AMD machine I was goiung ot play with seems to be dead

A Fan Lights and spins for Half a second though before power cuts out completely =(

could be bad mobo or PSU, IL have to use the tester to check I guess =(

And the spare GPU x800 turned out it was AGP and the board is PCIe sigh.
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11/13/12 at 10:30am
Well here is my limit for the 4200 x2 manny smile.gif http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2580699 Got this to windows, validated and then it crashed. I think it would take serious volts to go any higher and certainly way better cooling. I passed S&M at 2.7 and it spiked at around 75 or so during the fpu test! devil.gif So yeah... maybe not an everyday setting until i get a better air cooler or go under water. I'm hoping I can get one of the optys running faster anyways since from what I've read tend to go higher on less volts. Certainly less than a manny at any rate. New MX-4 paste should get here today, so I'll give it a whirl and let you guys know how it does.

On another note, I have finished reading this ENTIRE thread bigeyedsmiley.png I feel so knowledgeable now thanks to the wonderful folks who have contributed to this thread! Thanks all!
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