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I have a 939 setup I started building back in 06 sometime and have never even put power to it. I still needs psu, RAM, HDD, and video card. Next time I'm in my lab/office I will grab specs, and a few pictures.

I know the MB is Abit AN8 SLi with uGuru. Just like the Fatal1ty board only without the uGuru box for the case.
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Not exactly the truth. Nv raid is all that's required. If you raid 0 your single SSD it's pretty much the same performance as an AHCI SSD.
Alignment is important also. XP will not do this for you. You have to do it manually.
FWIW, I have SSD's on my DFI 939 boards, and older platforms than that, with no issues at all.

XP needs software support for stuff trim and garbage collection. you are also talking about how putting them in raid is as fast as AHCI mode. you realize when it runs slow like that with out trim or garbage collection or alignment that can wear out the SSD prematurely? or so i'v seen mentioned on CON a few times.
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Why not just run Win7 on your 939 instead of XP? 7 is running GREAT on my 939 machine, mech hdd of course. I only own one SSD and its for my main... biggrin.gif
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Speaking of Win 7 on older machines, I've had it running on my Socket A's and it still did well, mech drive and all.

Win 7 supports TRIM while XP doesn't and I have to agree, it could shorten the lifespan of an SSD but then again so does OC'ing on just about every component we have when we do it.
We're also upgrading things all the time so unless you plan on keeping that SSD for sometime as being used in a daily driver, I don't believe it's gonna make alot of difference. After all, when you upgrade things drives are one we tend to swap out for better performance.

It's really up to the user whether the risk is worth it or not and how they want to look at it.

Honestly, I have an older OCZ Core II SSD that's ran XP for a few years now and it's still going strong. Only difference I have to admit is I have it setup as IDE, not AHCI but there's still no TRIM being used of course.
I believe defragging an SSD is worse on them than anything else I can think of. redface.gif
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Originally Posted by SwishaMane View Post

Why not just run Win7 on your 939 instead of XP? 7 is running GREAT on my 939 machine, mech hdd of course. I only own one SSD and its for my main... biggrin.gif

I need XP on this machine.. win 7 will not work for me...
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XP needs software support for stuff trim and garbage collection. you are also talking about how putting them in raid is as fast as AHCI mode. you realize when it runs slow like that with out trim or garbage collection or alignment that can wear out the SSD prematurely? or so i'v seen mentioned on CON a few times.
Read more carefully. I'm talking a SINGLE SSD in raid 0. XP doesn't support TRIM at all, no matter what you do, and garbage collection is performed by the SSD firmware, not the OS. Alignment can be done manually, or by software. I use Paragon Alignment Tool. Works just fine. FWIW, I have XP installs on SSD's that are used 24/7 for more than 2 years and have never had an issue. They're still running today. I'm on one right now.

Nv raid is a software based raid. Google it.
http://www.aoaforums.com/frontpage/computer-hardware-58/292-guide-installing-xp-using-nvraid.html

Nv raid driver attached. Use at F6 on your XP install.
NFUM_NVRAID_F6.zip 612k .zip file
Edited by Mr.Scott - 3/3/13 at 4:02pm
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Read more carefully. I'm talking a SINGLE SSD in raid 0. XP doesn't support TRIM at all, no matter what you do, and garbage collection is performed by the SSD firmware, not the OS. Alignment can be done manually, or by software. I use Paragon Alignment Tool. Works just fine. FWIW, I have XP installs on SSD's that are used 24/7 for more than 2 years and have never had an issue. They're still running today. I'm on one right now.

Nv raid is a software based raid. Google it.
http://www.aoaforums.com/frontpage/computer-hardware-58/292-guide-installing-xp-using-nvraid.html


AH MR. SCOTT - I am glad to see a engineer.... (been on a trek kick lately!)

Anyways....

I read that hooking up a SSD to a win 7 machine and going into Drive management and formatting it in there will set up the alignment. Just plug back into the machine you intend to put XP on that drive.. fire up the machine with the CD and install.. is that the case?

as for NV raid... once windows is installed on the SSD and you boot into XP for the first time after install you then set the NV raid software?

Thanks...
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Anyways....



as for NV raid... once windows is installed on the SSD and you boot into XP for the first time after install you then set the NV raid software?

Thanks...
Use the attached driver at F6 on the install. Enter the Nvraid console and set it up.
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Use the attached driver at F6 on the install. Enter the Nvraid console and set it up.

Attached driver? Did you attach something?
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Originally Posted by Comp1demon View Post

AH MR. SCOTT - I am glad to see a engineer.... (been on a trek kick lately!)

Anyways....

I read that hooking up a SSD to a win 7 machine and going into Drive management and formatting it in there will set up the alignment. Just plug back into the machine you intend to put XP on that drive.. fire up the machine with the CD and install.. is that the case?

as for NV raid... once windows is installed on the SSD and you boot into XP for the first time after install you then set the NV raid software?

Thanks...

It's in Mr. Scott's post right above the one I quoted.
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