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Care to expand on this? Very interested in getting my SSD on XP to work on a 939 setup for my machine.

Raid 0 on a single drive? How is that possible.

Alignment?

Installing XP fresh from a CD to the SSD - how do you install NV-raid?

Thanks

To do raid on a single drive you create two partitions. The problem with this is that it's a software raid that will eat into your CPU a bit.
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To do raid on a single drive you create two partitions. The problem with this is that it's a software raid that will eat into your CPU a bit.
I actually googled that, and from what most tests show, Windows' software raid uses less cpu than the current Intel hardware raid implementation. It also performs better than the intel solution in most tests. I'm totally down with it.
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GL! Sounds fun!

I wish I had an SSD on my Opty rig back in those days, imagine right?
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Speaking of Win 7 on older machines, I've had it running on my Socket A's and it still did well, mech drive and all.

Win 7 supports TRIM while XP doesn't and I have to agree, it could shorten the lifespan of an SSD but then again so does OC'ing on just about every component we have when we do it.
We're also upgrading things all the time so unless you plan on keeping that SSD for sometime as being used in a daily driver, I don't believe it's gonna make alot of difference. After all, when you upgrade things drives are one we tend to swap out for better performance.

It's really up to the user whether the risk is worth it or not and how they want to look at it.

Honestly, I have an older OCZ Core II SSD that's ran XP for a few years now and it's still going strong. Only difference I have to admit is I have it setup as IDE, not AHCI but there's still no TRIM being used of course.
I believe defragging an SSD is worse on them than anything else I can think of. redface.gif

i did it on barton core, it ran aero and flash games at the same time... smoothly.

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Read more carefully. I'm talking a SINGLE SSD in raid 0. XP doesn't support TRIM at all, no matter what you do, and garbage collection is performed by the SSD firmware, not the OS. Alignment can be done manually, or by software. I use Paragon Alignment Tool. Works just fine. FWIW, I have XP installs on SSD's that are used 24/7 for more than 2 years and have never had an issue. They're still running today. I'm on one right now.

Nv raid is a software based raid. Google it.
http://www.aoaforums.com/frontpage/computer-hardware-58/292-guide-installing-xp-using-nvraid.html

Nv raid driver attached. Use at F6 on your XP install.
NFUM_NVRAID_F6.zip 612k .zip file

Duly noted. with out raid 0 what does it run like? as slow as an hdd? just a bios raid 0 with a single ssd? and alignment software? my grandparents machine uses XP but, doesn't do much and could benefit from an SSD. on the other hand it may get windows 7 by the time it gets and SSD.
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I actually googled that, and from what most tests show, Windows' software raid uses less cpu than the current Intel hardware raid implementation. It also performs better than the intel solution in most tests. I'm totally down with it.

Yeah I never really noticed any lag. I ran a couple of 939's with Vertex II's in them and never had a single issue. Of course, disabling pagefile before they included that in an XP update helped.
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I think my favorite part of this thread is that while we have these amazing, current, up to date rigs, we spend our time tinkering with 7 year old hardware and having intelligent discussion about it.
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I think my favorite part of this thread is that while we have these amazing, current, up to date rigs, we spend our time tinkering with 7 year old hardware and having intelligent discussion about it.

Whats great is that while the hardware is 7 yrs old. I still use it every day. I can't afford to have 4 brand new i7's running all the time. My work computers and project computers are all AMD machines. I have only one i7 extreme PC and it is Gen 1. My laptops are Gen 2/3 i7 and i5 machines - but a laptop will never be a desk top.

I thought about selling off everything and building a new rig for my arcade machine - but the $100 in upgrades (opteron 180, Ram and video card) make it a more than capable machine for emulation.

It does make me want to build anew i7 extreme rig for emulation (not on an arcade machine) and some gaming too.. But I rather see if I can get these 939 machines running the best they can.

I have so many old machines it is rediculas.. I never throw anything away. I have 20 rigs in my garage from pentium 200MMX to some P3 beasts. I have some P4's I need to update and sell off and my AMD machines make great guest machines (cause I hate when my parents visit for a month and need a machine, they end up screwing up one of mine) . At least with the 939 machines I can set one up that seems to run as current as their i5 laptops do at home and when they leave I just re-image the drive.

I still need to see If i can get my SSD to run on this eVGA board - if not I will keep the EIDE HDD.

I do have Two more 939 boards on the way. I got an ABIT for $45 and someone just sold me a DFI lan party with a operon 185 in it for $100 shipped. And I just found a 3700+ and a a8n SLI board in my garage.. gotta see if they work.

I will be here constantly for the next few weeks talking with you guys... When i get into something I don't walk away from it for a while.. (i get sucked in).
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those a8n's are nice, i have a fatal1ty with the uguru. the uguru worked on my abit ip35-pro too. thumb.gif

Still rocking the board in a halfway runnign system...
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I think my favorite part of this thread is that while we have these amazing, current, up to date rigs, we spend our time tinkering with 7 year old hardware and having intelligent discussion about it.

haha and then you got the people like me who don't even still have a running 939 who just loves to get nostalgic
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For reference, I'm using an Asus A8N-32 motherboard with an SSD and it works perfectly. Of course that motherboard doesn't support AHCI, so the SSD is in IDE mode, but the disk performance seems exactly the same as when I had it in AHCI on a new board.
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