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Hey guys, I currently have 2 939 setups. One is a MSI K8N Neo4/SLI with a Athlon 3800+ and the other is a Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-SLI with a Athlon 4800. I swap 2gb of Corsair XMS out of the systems when I use them. I have a question for you guys, which setup is better? I haven't really messed with either setup, I would like to sell one of the setups, but I am unsure what I should keep and what I should sell.
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What ever set up gives you the best FSB overclocks while staying cool... Most boards were pretty sturdy back in the 939 days but you may also want to look into which board has the best power control in the circuits.
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What ever set up gives you the best FSB overclocks while staying cool... Most boards were pretty sturdy back in the 939 days but you may also want to look into which board has the best power control in the circuits.

The Neo4 has a beefy cooler on the power delivery system, while the Ultra SLI has no cooling at all. I couldn't get the 4800+ over 2.3GHz on the Ultra SLI, maybe I should give it a try on the Neo4 and see if it gives me some better results.
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The Neo4 has a beefy cooler on the power delivery system, while the Ultra SLI has no cooling at all. I couldn't get the 4800+ over 2.3GHz on the Ultra SLI, maybe I should give it a try on the Neo4 and see if it gives me some better results.

Yep exactly. Just based on the heatsinks, the Neo4 sounds like the one to keep. It would be interesting to see if the overclock is higher.
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The Neo4 has a beefy cooler on the power delivery system, while the Ultra SLI has no cooling at all. I couldn't get the 4800+ over 2.3GHz on the Ultra SLI, maybe I should give it a try on the Neo4 and see if it gives me some better results.

Yep exactly. Just based on the heatsinks, the Neo4 sounds like the one to keep. It would be interesting to see if the overclock is higher.

In theory this sounds correct but overclocks can also have a lot to do w/bios options.

Even though a board may have better cooling of the power control, it is possible it needs it due to weaker circuits oh and don't forget it may also lack bios options. I have never owned either of those boards so I have no idea which board has what in the bios.
Edited by N2Gaming - 3/27/13 at 11:12am
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Those ballistix need fans, depending on the clip type it is very pikely that the heat spreaders arent making much contact. The stubby clips have lifting issues.

Found a few options that are better than the gskills. I heard they wont clock much. Found some cl2 ddr 400's.... And some others that i hope to be better. But they are likely infineon ic's so dont get too excited lol
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Also there was a kit i bought on ebay of tracers, they wouldnt work at rated speeds, they would error out instantly and then the computer would freeze and not post. Left it off for the night and it came back on after sleeping. Quickly got into bios before that repeated, set it for 400 and all timings and subs, and it was mostly stable. Much higher would cause the issue again. With fans. So my theory is a solder joint or just degradation from heat... Might be similar to your issue?

Its too bad no one makes great ddr anymore. And prices are still up there. But im glad some still make decent mem.

Once i get the memory ill see if i can push my optys or 3800x2 to 3.2 or better... Probably whip out the tec. I know all my chips do 3, but im hoping for 3.2+++biggrin.gif. Edit: found some old screenshots of wprime, 3dmark01, etc with 3.1-3.2... If i cant get 3.2 anymore ill be in the market for one. Iirc at that speed it was close to a stock conroe lol
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Yep exactly. Just based on the heatsinks, the Neo4 sounds like the one to keep. It would be interesting to see if the overclock is higher.

I popped the 4200+ in the MSI board and I am going to mess with it a bit later tonight.
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In theory this sounds correct but overclocks can also have a lot to do w/bios options.

Even though a board may have better cooling of the power control, it is possible it needs it due to weaker circuits oh and don't forget it may also lack bios options. I have never owned either of those boards so I have no idea which board has what in the bios.

Both boards have fully featured bios's, I think the Neo4 has a bit better one than the Ultra-SLI though. I will try and OC the 4200+ and let you guys know what I can get out of it.

Edit: Anone know what this is all about? Do I need to update the BIOS or something for it to support dual core CPU's?

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Also there was a kit i bought on ebay of tracers, they wouldnt work at rated speeds, they would error out instantly and then the computer would freeze and not post. Left it off for the night and it came back on after sleeping. Quickly got into bios before that repeated, set it for 400 and all timings and subs, and it was mostly stable. Much higher would cause the issue again. With fans. So my theory is a solder joint or just degradation from heat... Might be similar to your issue?

Its too bad no one makes great ddr anymore. And prices are still up there. But im glad some still make decent mem.

Once i get the memory ill see if i can push my optys or 3800x2 to 3.2 or better... Probably whip out the tec. I know all my chips do 3, but im hoping for 3.2+++biggrin.gif. Edit: found some old screenshots of wprime, 3dmark01, etc with 3.1-3.2... If i cant get 3.2 anymore ill be in the market for one. Iirc at that speed it was close to a stock conroe lol

I'll check the heat spreaders. I seem to remember them kinda peeling away before I used them the first time. Though as you can see in the rig pic i have a RAM fan. It may also be that I will have to preset the timings in bios with another set and then swap. the ddr500 ran at 3-4-4-8 I believe, and most of my other RAM is 2.5 or better. I have 4 512 ballistix sticks that run 2-2-2-5 at ddr 500 (maybe higher) but i like having the 4 gigs more than the higher speeds (though having both would be awesome)
 
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TB13, my MSI K8N was insanely easy to overclock on. Maybe not as capable as my Ultra-D, but man, within 20-60 minutes I could get damn close to what my DFI board could get to after days of fiddling.
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Kind of sounds like a walk away and cool off a bit to free up your soul from frustration before trying again when all your thoughts are more in tune and broadened by time gone by and the thoughts of what you could try differently next time around wink.gif
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Also there was a kit i bought on ebay of tracers, they wouldnt work at rated speeds, they would error out instantly and then the computer would freeze and not post. Left it off for the night and it came back on after sleeping. Quickly got into bios before that repeated, set it for 400 and all timings and subs, and it was mostly stable. Much higher would cause the issue again. With fans. So my theory is a solder joint or just degradation from heat... Might be similar to your issue?

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Once i get the memory ill see if i can push my optys or 3800x2 to 3.2 or better... Probably whip out the tec. I know all my chips do 3, but im hoping for 3.2+++biggrin.gif. Edit: found some old screenshots of wprime, 3dmark01, etc with 3.1-3.2... If i cant get 3.2 anymore ill be in the market for one. Iirc at that speed it was close to a stock conroe lol
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