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post #27421 of 28706
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Originally Posted by bfedorov11 View Post

I bought a ton of stuff for a vintage 939 build a few months ago. Found a guy that used to have a hardware website and he filled a box for me. It was like christmas. Got a expert and ultra-d, only used for a few hours, 4800+, bunch of mushkin bh5, the 991440 utt set, aftermarket coolers. I would like to find some old lian li cases, but people want like $200 for them. Any ideas for a new but vintage looking case?

Wanna give up that Expert? tongue.gif

I've got an old Lian Li V2000 that's in pretty good condition if you wanna go big! It's missing a couple of the front bay covers and some of the hardware, otherwise it's pretty nice. In use for the next week or so, but I was planning on letting it go for around $75 plus whatever shipping is. I have the original box still so shipping is pretty safe.

Otherwise I thought Lian Li still made some fairly boxy models that would closely (ish) resemble those of a decade ago.
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Wanna give up that Expert? tongue.gif

I've got an old Lian Li V2000 that's in pretty good condition if you wanna go big! It's missing a couple of the front bay covers and some of the hardware, otherwise it's pretty nice. In use for the next week or so, but I was planning on letting it go for around $75 plus whatever shipping is. I have the original box still so shipping is pretty safe.

Otherwise I thought Lian Li still made some fairly boxy models that would closely (ish) resemble those of a decade ago.

That case is massive. Did you run a loop in it? It would probably cost a lot to ship across country.

I saw your post and thought about posting, but I don't know if I can part with it. It took me a long time to find one that wasn't an insane ebay price. I found the guy on reddit hardwareswap. Have you tried there?

I have the lian li that they sold with the mach1 lian li kit. It has an old 478 system in it now. I'll probably move it to an inexpensive case and use it for the 939. I think my father still has my ancient kingwin aluminum case. I might have to go reclaim it.


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post #27423 of 28706
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I feel blessed with my case and watercooling combo and setup. With my rad vertical in front of the case, the two 120mms pushing air into the case, this air goes right across the mobo (including RAM) so active RAM cooling wont be necessary for me. Its a noticeable breeze...

ECC RAM OC'ing commences tonight... I'll do performance comparisons between ECC on and off at current setting to see the impact, and if negligible, Ill see how far she can go. thumb.gif
Which ECC RAM U will be using for OC ?
Qimonda CF-5 ?
Samsung ZCCC ?
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post #27424 of 28706
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Which ECC RAM U will be using for OC ?
Qimonda CF-5 ?
Samsung ZCCC ?

I have the Qimonda set like seaFs. Maybe Ill have detrimental results, but at least I'll try.
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post #27425 of 28706
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Maybe you can run the DIMMs at 500MHz just like me. If you're getting 3GHz and DDR500, let's do a shotoout biggrin.gif
I'm running 273x11 CPU, memory divider 12.
In early OC experiments, I did do 3GHz/500MHz : LINK smile.gif
It wasn't 100% stable tho :/ (probably too low Vcore - didn't checked with higher...).

@up
Good read about ECC OC : LINK wink.gif
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post #27426 of 28706
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Originally Posted by bfedorov11 View Post

That case is massive. Did you run a loop in it? It would probably cost a lot to ship across country.

I saw your post and thought about posting, but I don't know if I can part with it. It took me a long time to find one that wasn't an insane ebay price. I found the guy on reddit hardwareswap. Have you tried there?

I have the lian li that they sold with the mach1 lian li kit. It has an old 478 system in it now. I'll probably move it to an inexpensive case and use it for the 939. I think my father still has my ancient kingwin aluminum case. I might have to go reclaim it.


Have you decided what card you're going to use?

Negative - I just bought the case last year on eBay for a decent price and never really had a use for it. Have a large media server (and folding machine, this week) running in it right now. This may have been a "plus" model but the card holder and PCIe fan are missing. No extra drill holes or anything like that, so it's ready for new mods if that was your intent.

If you're interested shoot me a PM, I'd rather see someone from here take it than give it up on eBay. We can figure something out I'm sure.

Haven't tried reddit...I should really check that out sometime.
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post #27427 of 28706
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In early OC experiments, I did do 3GHz/500MHz : LINK smile.gif
It wasn't 100% stable tho :/ (probably too low Vcore - didn't checked with higher...).

@up
Good read about ECC OC : LINK wink.gif

All this Qimonda CF-5 stuff started here tongue.gif

They key to high clocks with 4 DIMMs is not VCore, but DDR Clock skew. Play with it ... much... very much. It saved all my problems. The golden thing of DFI NF4 is TRef, the golden thing of A8N is DDR Clock skew.

I pushed 2x2GB CF-5 till 265MHz (sync to HTT) stable! I guess it was 3-3-3-8 2,75V CR1. I can't remeber it right, it's two years ago when I discovered this for myself. But running 4x2GB is much harder, if not impossible. I need to run it async to HTT, otherwise I get bluescreens before the desktop shows up. No amount of tweaking solved it. I guess it's a signal interference issue inside the mainboard layers. Too much load and information to transfer. But that's normal, even with nowadays systems. Maybe I swap my 4400ü against a 3700+ a start playing again, in case I find some time. Let's see...
By the way... tighest timings I could run with CF-5 was 200MHz 2-3-3-5, 243MHz 2.5-3-3-5, 250MHz 3-3-3-5, all slots populated. It's only CL and two sub timings that change.
What is your ZCCC able to do?
 
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Well, when Dual Cored S939 CPU is clocked at 3GHz and U don't go high enough with Vcore (I am using Air Cooling on it), PC will be crashing regardles of RAM settings.

They are 99% stable for 240MHz frequency with CL2.5.3.3.7 CR1T @ 2,6V.
I didn't play with "DDR clock skew" setting... will try it tho - thanks for tip thumb.gif

EDIT :
Checked few settings.
1) I discovered that ECC is important for my chips stability.
Without it, memtest86+ 5.01 shows lots of memery errors (on otherwise stable when ECC ON, setting).
2,75V without ECC = LOTS of errors. With 2,65V and ECC = None
2) ECC doesn't like high voltage on RAM (or my IMC dosen't like it) - 2,7V is highest it can tolerate without random BSOD's (temps may be a problem tho).
3) This RAM (at least with all 4 slots populated), prefers lower timings above high frequency to achieve max performance (500MHz is highest Frequency it can do in Dual Channel).
4) Clock Skew helps stabilise RAM - my [AUTO] setting used [450]ps Delay, BUT on [300]ps - RAM was more stable.
To me Skew is as importnat, as secondary timings, like tRC, tRFC, tRRD.
5) Didn't try 4GB configuration yet, but that will have to wait - other things to do.
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Sorry about post under post.

GPU utilisation 95-99% smile.gif
CPU Bottlenecking is overrated biggrin.gif
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That's great lol. It's good to finally see 2K and 4K become 'more' of a norm.1680x1050 and 1080p were always too CPU dependent. thumb.gif
 
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