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Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
No one in this thread even comes close to using 2GB of physical memory.
Excuse me. I object!

On more than one occasion has my page file usage exceeded 2048 MB. Granted, with all 4 DIMMs in (4 GB physical, 3.5 GB technical), I run a 10752 MB page file, but that is besides the point. I have had times when mutlitasking (read: answering emails, compressing video, archiving, talking on various IM clients, and listening to WMP) where i have exceeded even the 6144 MB mark, which is where I would be if I only had 2 GB (since I make my Windows Virtual a fixed number twice that of my physical RAM).

My laptop (Vista Ultimate) would frequently run out of RAM and would disable Aero until I installed another 2 GB (bringing the total to 4 GB physical, 3.25 GB technical).

Now; the safer comment would be that "Most people will not use up 2 GB of RAM" because there is at least one documented example where someone not only comes close, but exceeds the limits of 2 GB of RAM.

EDIT: I am presently using 1920 MB of my (reduced*) available 9062 MB page file.

*Two DIMMs are out on RMA
     
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On more than one occasion has my page file usage exceeded 2048 MB. Granted, with all 4 DIMMs in (4 GB physical, 3.5 GB technical), I run a 10752 MB page file, but that is besides the point. I have had times when mutlitasking (read: answering emails, compressing video, archiving, talking on various IM clients, and listening to WMP) where i have exceeded even the 6144 MB mark, which is where I would be if I only had 2 GB (since I make my Windows Virtual a fixed number twice that of my physical RAM)>
Blitz, your going to loose a heck of a lot of performance running a 10GB paging file just FYI. Your killing the I/O of your drive. If you are honestly needing that much memory then you should upgrade your OS to something that can actually use more memory. What are you archiving while reading email, compressing video, listening to WMP and chating on "various" IM clients? I'm doing all of that on my workstation at work with 1GB of physical (1570mb paging file) and I still have 389MB free and yes Outlook does auto archiving
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Nah, was backing up my "My Documents" folder to a spare HDD. WinRAR maximum compression and encryption.

As to video compression, Camtasia Studio 4.

And most of the time, the Virtual Memory is not used (the 3328 mb - 3584 mb of RAM can handle most of what I throw at it.)

In Vista, I never even use the Virtual Memory; ReadyBoost takes over. My only complaint is that there is no such thing for XP.
     
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And most of the time, the Virtual Memory is not used (the 3328 mb - 3584 mb of RAM can handle most of what I throw at it.)
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Blitz, so then why do you have such a huge paging file if you have enough physical memory? Sorry I'm just a little confused....
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Like I said, MOST of the time it is sufficient. There are times when I have been using 6144-9216 MB of page file. This is why I said I could never again use a single core processor: I do too much at one time.
     
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Like I said, MOST of the time it is sufficient. There are times when I have been using 6144-9216 MB of page file. This is why I said I could never again use a single core processor: I do too much at one time.
Blitz, sounds like to me your better off going with an OS that can actually handle more than 4GB of physical memory. The virtual memory is stored on your HD. With that size paging file you'll have problems. You don't need a dual core to multitask. I'm on a single core at work and doing just fine
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Well, I am stuck at 4 GB anyway due to hardware limitations. When I upgrade to AM3, I will be sure to get a x64 with 16 GB RAM.

I know VM is on the HDD, but so far, I do not have much issue with it. When I am loading that much PF, the CPU is near 70% anyway.

And ReadyBoost is cool. It completely eliminates my Laptop from using VM. It is slower than RAM sure, but faster than HDD.
     
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Question: Regarding this discussion about "real memory" (i.e., RAM) vs. "total memory" (RAM + virtual memory -- page file): What is the real issue here? Are we talking about performance (usage speeds) or the advantages of having larger capacity?

Or has the SoCal weather just totally turned my few remaining brain cells into mush?
    
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Yes txtmstrjoe, we are.

It started off with me addressing DanDaManZ06's memory shortage. Told him it would make his PC faster to drop from 2.25 GB to 2.0 GB given the x86 address space issues compounded with the limitations of the AMD's IMC.

Then Thlnk3r and I started going on about the differences resulting from page files.

My next PC will be an AM3 (quad at least) with 16 GB of RAM methinks; likely running Vienna x64 at that point.
     
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Told him it would make his PC faster to drop from 2.25 GB to 2.0 GB given the x86 address space issues compounded with the limitations of the AMD's IMC.
Blitz, the memory limitation in XP is just that...a limit! It has nothing to do with the OS being x86 (32-bit). If that were the case then Microsoft Data Center x86 wouldn't be able to support a maximum memory limit of 128GB
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