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I DO HOLD THE WORLD RECORD AS THE FASTEST 1GB DIMM IN THE WORLD THAT IS CAPABLE OF 2-2-2-5 timing,
You hold nothing until there is tangible proof, which has been asked for at least twice and has yet to be provided.
As stated before, talk is cheap. Put up or shut up.
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You hold nothing until there is tangible proof, which has been asked for at least twice and has yet to be provided.
As stated before, talk is cheap. Put up or shut up.

I will put-up when all testing is completed, until then I will not shut-up.
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Its not limited here. everything is fixed and working no issue whatsoever. Its ultra fast when I need the extra speed.

(you said: overclocking RAM using 1GB modules limits the overclock) WRONG no effect whatsoever & is totally rubbish works perfect here all the way up to max speed and I take back what I said in the early posting. I DO HOLD THE WORLD RECORD AS THE FASTEST 1GB DIMM IN THE WORLD THAT IS CAPABLE OF 2-2-2-5 timing, I have 4GB in total.

The only problem I have with this motherboard, it is limited to what GFX card that will fit after all cooling is fitted. That card is the R9 Nano which is clocked @1080 no throttling issue, which may also hold a world record.

FX-60 overclocks fine, higher than most users on air, but I only enable this if I am doing something more demanding.
Overclocking on socket 939 does get affected by RAM module capacity and slots used, try getting the same clocks from a single 512MB stick and 4x1GB sticks (considering that all the sticks are exactly the same in stock clocks and timings). I bet you won't get the same result.
Also, as Mr.Scott said, proof is always a must when writing things like "I DO HOLD THE WORLD RECORD AS THE FASTEST 1GB DIMM IN THE WORLD THAT IS CAPABLE OF 2-2-2-5". Now, show us somthing to proof that sentence, you didn't even said what modules you're using.

Also, GPU doesn't affect overclock (except maybe when using iGPU)
     
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Took me 30 seconds to set this up. Random 1 gig stick of Infineon BE-5.

Read it and weep.
Thanks for the challenge.



Edited by Mr.Scott - 6/19/16 at 2:33pm
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I will put-up when all testing is completed, until then I will not shut-up.

Why don't you put-up at least the model of the sticks you're using? That "i won't put them up until i finish testing" thing is BS IMHO.
     
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at least the model of the sticks you're using? That "i won't put them up until i finish testing" thing is BS IMHO.[/quote]

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Overclocking on socket 939 does get affected by RAM module capacity and slots used, try getting the same clocks from a single 512MB stick and 4x1GB sticks (considering that all the sticks are exactly the same in stock clocks and timings). I bet you won't get the same result.
Also, as Mr.Scott said, proof is always a must when writing things like "I DO HOLD THE WORLD RECORD AS THE FASTEST 1GB DIMM IN THE WORLD THAT IS CAPABLE OF 2-2-2-5". Now, show us somthing to proof that sentence, you didn't even said what modules you're using.

Also, GPU doesn't affect overclock (except maybe when using iGPU)
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Took me 30 seconds to set this up. Random 1 gig stick of Infineon BE-5.

Read it and weep.
Thanks for the challenge.



That's what I am talking about. no 1GB stick is able to hold a 2 clock cycle TRCD at very high speed, until now. TRCD play a very important roll how stable a memory module is. if you can get control of TRCD then CL, you have control of stability at high speed with tight timings.
Edited by delshay - 6/19/16 at 3:16pm
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It matters very little in the grand scheme of things. Clock for clock 1.5-3-2-5 will out perform 2-2-2-5.
While I understand and appreciate what you're trying to accomplish, it is not earth shattering.
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It matters very little in the grand scheme of things. Clock for clock 1.5-3-2-5 will out perform 2-2-2-5.
While I understand and appreciate what you're trying to accomplish, it is not earth shattering.

I think its the other way round. but I will do a check & confirm. CL1.5 is only half a clock cycle faster while TRCD is 3 clock cycle, where the other one CL2 is half a clock cycle slower but TRCD is a "full" clock cycle less.

I will check again TRCD has a bigger impact on performance than CL. Perhaps some can explain why TRCD most of the time is the first to be hit out of the main 4 parameters when it comes to timing. Why is this?

it was TRCD that made the world fastest EDO memory & its TRCD that driving DDR performance up not CL & its getting quicker.
Edited by delshay - 6/19/16 at 3:44pm
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http://www.extremetech.com/computing/56922-does-ram-latency-matter/2
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here’s the chronological sequence of events: First the pins receive a request to, let’s say, retrieve memory at a certain address. The first latency measurement that comes into play is tRAS, as the memory waits to activate the row where the data resides. Then tRP comes into play if the requested data resides on a different row than the one previously accessed. After the row is selected (if necessary), you have the tRCD delay before the column is selected. Then CAS is the time it takes to select the proper column of memory and retrieve data stored there. To recap, listed chronologically, it’s tRAS -> tRP -> tRCD -> CAS. And CAS has the biggest impact on performance, since new columns are accessed more frequently than anything else

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How about a little sample before I do all the foot work? Say, 1GB @ DDR600 @ CL 2

is this a 1gb stick or 2x512? i would love to have 4gb of it in my dfi.. I did some runs with crucial ballistix tracers at 600+, but had to sacrifice timings... I'd have to look for pics to see what it was
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